Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

"War is described as people's rebellion against the assumption that everything needs to happen for a purpose, because humans do things without purpose, and this is what determines human history.

Secondly, the narrator's desire for pain and paranoia is exemplified by his liver pain and toothache. This parallels Raskolnikov's behavior in Dostoevsky's later novel, Crime and Punishment. He says that, due to the cruelty of society, human beings only moan about pain in order to spread their suffering to others. He builds up his own paranoia to the point he is incapable of looking his co-workers in the eye."

I like....

Crime and Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov are excellent. This is on my list of books to read as well.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

You're problem = you think anything I say in reply to one of your posts is meant to demean YOU.

I've been trying to tell her that and have never been able to get the right words together. Thanks!

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

may i suggest this reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_from_Underground

"War is described as people's rebellion against the assumption that everything needs to happen for a purpose, because humans do things without purpose, and this is what determines human history.

Secondly, the narrator's desire for pain and paranoia is exemplified by his liver pain and toothache. This parallels Raskolnikov's behavior in Dostoevsky's later novel, Crime and Punishment. He says that, due to the cruelty of society, human beings only moan about pain in order to spread their suffering to others. He builds up his own paranoia to the point he is incapable of looking his co-workers in the eye."

I like....

[levon]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

t just seems that you made up your mind about me primarily based on the following: 1) I'm a woman 2) an academic 3) live in the US

Of course, all the pro-feminist stuff you have posted here since I've been a member has had absolutely no bearing on what I think.

But now that you mention it, 1) and 3) explain a lot, 2) and 3) explain a lot as well, and 1), 2), 3) leave little room for error.

Your statement didn't even make sense because of the poor grammatical structure.

Really, please do point out which part you have trouble understanding.

I assume you're saying you didn't expect me to cite anything that would suggest women shouldn't have sex before marriage?

You are a dull one. My statement implied that no western academic would decide to kill his career by implying anything that would suggest a woman shouldn't have sex before marriage. But I'm sure this statement's poor grammatical structure will keep you from understanding it. So here, I'll restructure it in a way that even you can decipher.

SUPPOSE:
Western academic -> implies women shouldn't have sex before marriage -> gets lots of bad press from wimminz and manginas -> gets fired or resigns

THEREFORE
Western academic = will never imply that women shouldn't have sex before marriage.

Wait, this has poor grammatical structure as well. Oh well, who gives a damn.

This wasn't about me at all. Kanada made a statement and I asked him to support it. That's all. Then you jumped in to point out that I'm a western academic.

You're problem = you think anything I say in reply to one of your posts is meant to demean YOU.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Once the person understands the logic, they will get it right next time it's posed to them.... which is why there is a process called learning.

Not always. Seriously, if you're interested, check out any one of those books.

[gkv]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

may i suggest this reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_from_Underground

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

The logical thing to do would be to seek disconfirming evidence in order to test whether the statement is correct. But, overwhelmingly, people don't do that. They instead look only for confirming information. Is that not an example of how research can show people aren't optimal reasoners/decision makers? It's exactly what you said was impossible.

Once the person understands the logic, they will get it right next time it's posed to them.... which is why there is a process called learning.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I just looked at it... what does this have to do with anything? You can set a gauntlet up for someone and they won't get out of it without mistakes the first time because they haven't studied it. Logic is difficult to understand whether it's computer programming or electronic logic gates because the human mind isn't playing chess at every thought.

The logical thing to do would be to seek disconfirming evidence in order to test whether the statement is correct. But, overwhelmingly, people don't do that. They instead look only for confirming information. Is that not an example of how research can show people aren't optimal reasoners/decision makers? It's exactly what you said was impossible.

Here are some books (which discuss research) about irrationality of people:
"Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me" by Carol Tavris
"Predictably Irrational" by Dan Airely
"Inevitable Illusions" by Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini
"Bozo Sapiens" by Michael & Ellen Kaplan

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Wow, where did that come from. Read my post again, then read what it was replying to. Then do the whole thing again and see whether any of my post had anything at all to do with what you say women should do

And you are biased. All women are biased, whether republican, liberal or liberterian. Whether they live in the west or in a traditional society. The only difference is the degree of bias, which issues their bias affects the most, and how the bias is expressed.

And P.S. You seem to be biased toward the fact that abuse is a one way relationship going from men to women.

It wasn't exclusively in response to that post. It just seems that you made up your mind about me primarily based on the following: 1) I'm a woman 2) an academic 3) live in the US

Your statement didn't even make sense because of the poor grammatical structure. I assume you're saying you didn't expect me to cite anything that would suggest women shouldn't have sex before marriage? This wasn't about me at all. Kanada made a statement and I asked him to support it. That's all. Then you jumped in to point out that I'm a western academic.

And no, I do realize that abuse can go both ways. That's what I mean about assumptions.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Or you just don't understand what I'm explaining. I even gave you a sample study.

I just looked at it... what does this have to do with anything? You can set a gauntlet up for someone and they won't get out of it without mistakes the first time because they haven't studied it. Logic is difficult to understand whether it's computer programming or electronic logic gates because the human mind isn't playing chess at every thought.