What do you guys think? Armenian w/ non-Armenian?

[Siamanto]

Siamanto, I didnt mention genetics specifically before, but I see how loser drew the connection.

ArmoBarbi,
Thank you for the comment; but can/should a reader guess what someone - in this case you - have said in the past in other threads, and how much of it the poster - in this case loseyourname - have read.

In any case, it reminds of a story where the king bluffs and says that he once - with one arrow - wounded a deer's ear and "foot." When everybody look puzzled, his "advisor" adds that it happened when the deer was scratching his ear with his foot!

[HyerThanYou]

Does anyone understand that Armenians in America are considered just plain WHITE outside of the few dense Armenian Populated areas in the united states ?

[hyerebel]

It all comes down to having children. If you knew for sure that together with a non-Armenian (I don't like the word otar) spouse you could raise children who would be no less Armenian (culturally) than with an Armenian spouse and would be a full continuation of the Armenian culture and race, then there is no problem whatsoever. However, in lue of the fact that we're close to being in the red book of endangered cultures and most of us already live outside Armenia with the risk of losing our ties to our culture, the need to have children with other Armenians is not rooted in racism or even nationalism, but in the desire to see our tribe survive the next 1000 years and God willing more. We don't want to be the next Assyrians, a proud yet dwindling spec on this planet.

I totally agree with you, but then again as my friends and I were talking, there is no guarantee what our children’s life will be like! They might choose to get married with a non-Armenian!

[sad_eyes]

Children are a map of their parents. The individuals that they become are a result of their parents upbringing. Children are dependable on thier parents when they are young and can continue to do so when they become older, that is why it is the parents duty to teach the child what it needs to know not only about the basics, (ie-toilet training, brushing teeth, walking, please and thank-you's) but about who that child is and where it comes from, how else will the child be able to identify who he or she is? A child brought up being told that marrying out of your race is wrong, will more than likely marry within thier own race. And I am not talking of the once or occasional "you have to marry you own" moment, nor am I talking about stressing it at every second, but every now and then I believe sitting with your child, explain where he/she comes from, teach them their history and let the child develop into who he or she will become. We are all different individuals, we all have different ideas of how our lives should be run, or how we choose to run them, but once again I think how we choose to live our lives, is in part a result of our upbringings. My mother alwayw taught me to use my heart, to feel with it, and thus the reason why I am who I am today. I use my heart, it is my compass.......

[ArmoBarbi]

Does anyone understand that Armenians in America are considered just plain WHITE outside of the few dense Armenian Populated areas in the united states ?

What are you saying?? We ARE WHITE.

Siamanto, funny as usual.

[ddd]

I'm against it mainly because of the low number of Armenians left around the world. As karoaper said, we don't want to be extinct, and marrying "otars" is the quickest way to get there.

But hey, I'm a strong advocate of being with the one who you'll be happiest with, and on that unfinished note, I will conclude this post.

[bezjian]

What are you saying?? We ARE WHITE.

Siamanto, funny as usual.

seems there's some disagreement about this:

http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?p=122702#post122702

[violette829]

As far as the population of Armenians is concerned, I will say this:

I was not born to be a breeding machine for ANYONE. If Armenians want to sustain and increase in population, maybe they should STOP KILLING EACHOTHER. How about this? Let's do something about the damn "so called govt" in Armenia to MAYBE...JUST MAYBE take care of the couples who give birth....Some European countries are doing this..but us..OH NO.

As selfish as this sounds, I will not sacrifice my own happiness for anything...I have gone back and forth about my opinions on the matter, and it wasn't until recently, when I started dating an ODAR (from outer space?), that I realize that it doesn't really matter to me.

Thank God I have an understanding family..I know it'll be difficult...but which relationship is free of dilemma? NONE!

[karoaper]

As far as the population of Armenians is concerned, I will say this:

I was not born to be a breeding machine for ANYONE. If Armenians want to sustain and increase in population, maybe they should STOP KILLING EACHOTHER. How about this? Let's do something about the damn "so called govt" in Armenia to MAYBE...JUST MAYBE take care of the couples who give birth....Some European countries are doing this..but us..OH NO.

No one said you should be a breeding machine. Unless I missed an earlier post. If you know for sure you can't be happy with an Armenian male, then no one in their right mind would blame you for seeking personal happiness in life by marrying a non-Armenian. However, is it wrong to ask our people to seek happiness amongs us? I certainly don't think so.

[ddd]

I would certainly hope you don't become a "breeding machine" and by the "=*(" smiley face after Glendale, I would assume you're somewhat disgruntled to be living in a relatively unique part of the US. Perhaps you should change your pessimistic perspective and reap the rewards of living in such a tight night community.