How does everyone feel about Israel?

[Armanen]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Having a border with Russia would do wonders for us. But remember how much more difficult attacking is than defending. To take that much territory would take a lot of manpower and also we would lose the image of being the defenders under Azeri aggression. We would never have a military confrontation with Turkey, without Russia on our side, and that as you can predict would be like a World War. Plus, I doubt Turkey or Russia would be willing to fight each other.

When it comes to markets, I still think the European/Russia markets are much more valuable for us - access with Iran can only give us so much. Remember Iran itself is under economic restrictions.

If Armenian forces were to put the azeris on the defensive and then break their will to fight they will run all the way to the Caspian like they did in 1994. The more difficult problem would be controlling that area once it has been conquered. The world doesn't really look at us as being the victims either, at least not in word and too often this translates into deed as well. As long as Russia supports Armenia in the drive for a common border and they protect Armenia diplomatically it will not matter much what the world community says or does. To be honest if Armenia could do well economically if it traded with only Russia, the Mid East, the Far East, and Latin America. I am saying this if we were to have a common border with Russia, and if the eu and/or US were to cut or limit trade with Armenia. The future lies with the East, and Latin America.

[Persopolis]

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THIS IS THE MESSAGE I GOT FROM THE ALIYEV FOUNDATION ABOUT A QUESTION I HAD:

"Azeris From Atropatene Are in South Azerbaijan . They Are Persina.
North Azerbaijan , Comes From Khazars and The Seljuk Rule. South and North Are not the same , No MAtter how We Try."


THIS IS AN OFFICIAL MAP FROM THE REPUBLIC OF AZERBAIJAN'S SELF-PUBLISHED ATLAS:





"Mirza Khazar completed his graduation at the law faculty at the Azerbaijan State University. From August 1973 to January 1974, he worked as a lawyer in Sumgait. In June 1974, he immigrated to Israel and attended special courses for lawyers from the USSR at Tel-Aviv University. From June 1975 to January 1976, he served in the Israel Defense Forces."

Any questions?

[KanadaHye]

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No questions, just some more reading material...

Benjamin Freedman Speaks
A J3wish Defector Warns America

Introductory Note: Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20th century. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful J3wish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized J3wry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the J3wish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of J3wish organizations and J3wish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S.

http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/library/freedman.html

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

There is also a website run by J*wish man who has turned into a Christian pastor -- he is quite a character, but he has provided some information on the Armenian Genocide on his page. I haven't read the whole thing, but thought to put the link below:
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77

I've read Benjamin H. Freedman's account before - he didn't hide his opinions at all. Zionism & Pan-Turkism have certainly appeared together in many places. It's an interesting field of study. That's not to say all all xxxs are bad: I admire Norman Finkelstein's writing very much. But I've yet to meet a Zionist I've cared for.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

There is also a website run by J*wish man who has turned into a Christian pastor -- he is quite a character, but he has provided some information on the Armenian Genocide on his page. I haven't read the whole thing, but thought to put the link below:
http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=77

I've read Benjamin H. Freedman's account before - he didn't hide his opinions at all. Zionism & Pan-Turkism have certainly appeared together in many places. It's an interesting field of study. That's not to say all all xxxs are bad: I admire Norman Finkelstein's writing very much. But I've yet to meet a Zionist I've cared for.

I'm anti-Imperialism so whether it's British, French, American, German, Turkish, etc.. everyone should stay within their sovereign borders and build their own empire. Trade should be done fairly. Resources shouldn't be taken by gun point. We're in the 21st century and a majority of people have no clue about the world around them or who controls what. Diplomatic immunity? Who gives the right for a British or American agent to walk into foreign countries, kill people and be immune to laws. Then the media makes it look like it's the foreign countries that are at fault. Please, the Zionist agenda is so transparent I don't know how people are so unaware of it. Zionists aren't Israelites. They have taken the holy land and the world with it hostage.

[Persopolis]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Zionists aren't Israelites. They have taken the holy land and the world with it hostage.

I agree with you too. I am also against imperialism. Armenia and Iran I'm sure will have friendly relations for centuries to come -- I hope Armenia becomes very prosperous and that people return to Armenia from other countries and to help the country. Remember you can just drive into Iran from Armenia and so I think as people get used to this idea (post-USSR) you will see more and more people crossing the border as tourists, to do business, for sporting events, or to study. The great thing about the Iran/Armenia relationship is that Iran will never wake up one day and attack Armenia because we consider you our friends (it's a bit like driving from France to Belgium). Armenia will also have new trade routes, for example, through the Persian Gulf. Governments come and governments go - but the friendly ties between Armenians and Iranians are historic.

[Mos]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

I agree with you too. I am also against imperialism. Armenian and Iran I'm sure will have friendly relations for centuries to come -- I hope Armenia becomes very prosperous and that people return to Armenia from other countries and to help the country. Remember you can just drive into Iran from Armenia and so I think as people get used to this idea (post-USSR) you will see more and more people crossing the border as tourists, to do business, for sporting events, or to study. The great thing about the Iran/Armenia relationship is that Iran will never wake up one day and attack Armenia because we consider you our friends (it's a bit like driving from France to Belgium). Armenia will also have new trade routes, for example, through the Persian Gulf. Governments come and governments go - but the friendly ties between Armenians and Iranians are historic.

That all is fine, given Armenia remains a country for Armenians and the large majority is always Armenians. I don't want Muslim immigrants overflowing my country like they have in Europe and divide Armenia and change the character of the country.

[Armanen]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

That all is fine, given Armenia remains a country for Armenians and the large majority is always Armenians. I don't want Muslim immigrants overflowing my country like they have in Europe and divide Armenia and change the character of the country.

That won't be an issue for Armenia for some time. Immigrants flock to countries with dynamic and growing economies or wealthy countries with solid welfare systems in place. I do want to see a continued increase in Iranian tourists and investment in the Armenian economy.

[Mos]

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That won't be an issue for Armenia for some time. Immigrants flock to countries with dynamic and growing economies or wealthy countries with solid welfare systems in place. I do want to see a continued increase in Iranian tourists and investment in the Armenian economy.

Tourists are fine, but increasing amount of Persians are moving to Armenia permanently and in no time you will have people from other such countries, and if border with Turkey is open than Kurds and even poor Turks will flock to Armenia. Given our small size such immigration is dangerous for our country, especially Muslim immigrants who have many children and increase influence of Islam. Armenia for Armenians!

[Armanen]

Re: How does everyone feel about Israel?

Tourists are fine, but increasing amount of Persians are moving to Armenia permanently and in no time you will have people from other such countries, and if border with Turkey is open than Kurds and even poor Turks will flock to Armenia. Given our small size such immigration is dangerous for our country, especially Muslim immigrants who have many children and increase influence of Islam. Armenia for Armenians!

There are not that many Iranians moving to Armenia, no reason to panic. And if the border were opened, I doubt kurds or turks would flood into Armenia. What would they do? There are barely enough jobs for Armenia's current population. The only sector of the economy where kurdish workers might have a chance is in agriculture, as that was the dominant industry of the former azeri population of Armenia.