The Ottomans

[Kanki]

Re: The Ottomans

Orhan Pamuk is a J-E-Wish crap his father is JE-w! He doesn't live in Turkey now.

[Anoush]

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Only our stupid leaders try to good relations, but it doesn't show and present Turkish people

I believe the turkish people are very patriotic, maybe more than us Armenians. But it will take a lot of years for the good relations to materialize, then when and if it does; a new administration will probably come about and they may not want good relations with us. I don't even know if at all will work out. I don't know the mentality of most of the turkish people; but I do know that there are some that have prestige and open mindedness such as Orhan Pamuk and other highly acclaimed scholars that want the truth to prevail.

Your stupid leaders as you call them, they want good relations with Armenia and it seems to me that you are against them. Your leaders want good relations because we are neighbours and it is a good policy to get along with neighbours. Also, your leaders are looked upon by the world and the European Union that turkey wants to get into. That's another reason why the Turkish government wants to get along with Armenians. I wouldn't call that stupid.

[Kanki]

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They may hate turks now and even then; but for their own good the Zionist Doenme J*e*w*s got over your country and got over your throne to make turkey the sick man of Europe to create their Jerusalem of today. Armenians were the bread and butter of Turkey and they wanted us all massacred for their own use and their malignant ways and deeds.

Open your eyes and find out the truth, for the truth will make you free!!!!!!!!

Only our stupid leaders try to good relations, but it doesn't show and present Turkish people

[Anoush]

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Turks hate J-ews! and Turkey is not based on zionism

What a nonsense!!!

They may hate turks now and even then; but for their own good the Zionist Doenme J*e*w*s got over your country and got over your throne to make turkey the sick man of Europe to create their Jerusalem of today. Armenians were the bread and butter of Turkey and they wanted us all massacred for their own use and their malignant ways and deeds.

Open your eyes and find out the truth, for the truth will make you free!!!!!!!!

[Kanki]

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Turks hate J-ews! and Turkey is not based on zionism

What a nonsense!!!

[Anoush]

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Hellektor, it is impossible not to be moved by the accounts of Aristakes of Lastivert. Even if there might be some one sidedness, there is probably no doubt that terrible things happened.

In the life of individuals as well as nations there are challenges. Christianity teaches us to be prepared for hard times and calamities. Do church leaders prepare the masses? Much of world history is about empire builders and victims. The Othmans, or Seljuks or Oghuz or Ak-koyunlu, Kara-koyunlu etc took advantage of the Armenians' inability to organize and fight. Whether it was the Byzantines, Bulgarians, Armenia's poor geography,the cruelty of the Seljuks, Turks etc...in the end, it was down to the Armenians to free themselves from oppression. The Russians did it by themselves (from the Tatars) but not Armenians, Greeks etc

lampron,

Actually it wasn't just the Turks, it was also the Zionist J*e*w*s. Unfortunate for us Armenians, that to create Israel for themselves, the Zionist J*e*w*s mumbled in Abdul Hamid's ears and influenced Abdul Hamid to massacre 300,000 Armenians from 1895-1896. It was the Zionist J*e*w*s such as Talaat, Gemal and Beaheddin Shakir who threw off Abdul Hamid and took over the Turkish throne and sat on it with their bank monies that they brought in from Italy. Finally, it was them who created the WWI then the other Zionist Communist J*e*w*s ruthlessly got hold of the Russian Empire with their supposedly communism to free their J*e*w*ish brethren to be able to get out of Russia. We cannot put all the blame on the Turks for the Armenian Genocide; but half of the blame goes to the Zionist J*e*w*s. After all, it was the Zionist J*e*w*ish Talaat who gave the order to mutilate then annihilate all the Christians from Anatolia; at least 1.5 Million Armenians, as well as 800,000 Greeks and 800,000 Assyrian Christians.

Yes, half of the blame goes to the turks and the other half of the blame goes to the Zionist Doenme J*E*W*s who called themselves Attaturks.

[lampron]

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The Armenians did not ask for it but I doubt that it has ever occurred to any specimen of the Turkic parasite that:

“Did the Armenians ask the Turks to invade their home?
Did the Armenians ask, after 4000 years of civilization, the Turks who were in the lowest stages of evolution, to come and rule over them?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to subjugate this highly civilized ancient nation and become their masters?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to come and stop their progress?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to come and destroy their farmland, churches, monasteries, cemeteries, towns and cities?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to treat them like their reaya?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to settle the Kurds in Armenia to harass them for 500 years to make sure the Armenians would never summon up enough force to raise their heads and liberate their homeland from their barbaric yoke?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to steal their children for 500 years for janissary?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to change the name of their country, provinces, cities, towns, mountains, lakes and even flora and fauna?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to still squat in their home after they exterminated the landlord?”

Hellektor, it is impossible not to be moved by the accounts of Aristakes of Lastivert. Even if there might be some one sidedness, there is probably no doubt that terrible things happened.

In the life of individuals as well as nations there are challenges. Christianity teaches us to be prepared for hard times and calamities. Do church leaders prepare the masses? Much of world history is about empire builders and victims. The Othmans, or Seljuks or Oghuz or Ak-koyunlu, Kara-koyunlu etc took advantage of the Armenians' inability to organize and fight. Whether it was the Byzantines, Bulgarians, Armenia's poor geography,the cruelty of the Seljuks, Turks etc...in the end, it was down to the Armenians to free themselves from oppression. The Russians did it by themselves (from the Tatars) but not Armenians, Greeks etc

[Anoush]

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History is always 180 degrees opposite of the truth for the Turk. It was the Chinese who were being invaded by your Mongol grandpaws and not vice versa.

Khorassan is in Iran, not Turkmenistan. It does not belong to Turks. The Turkmens in Khorassan are comers.


This wolf in sheepskin behavior is truly funny. I have said this elsewhere and it always disturbs some but I'll say it again: I don't believe in god, because the existence of the Turk precludes the existence of god.

If god existed he/she/it wouldn't have, couldn't have, shouldn't have created the Turk. Turk and god are therefore mutually exclusive.

I totally agree with you Hellektor as always!!!!!

It was indeed the Chinese that throughout history were constantly attacked by and invaded by the mongolian turks NOT the other way around. That is why the Great Wall of China was created by the Chinese, to keep the barbaric mongolian turks away from their country. Thus the Chinese have normally been peaceful people.

I also agree with dani87, turks have never been one to create or build cities. Their palaces until 1915 were built by Armenian great architects NEVER by turks. Unfortunately though turks were known to demolish our monasteries, our ancient Churches and buildings. It's very sad but it's the truth.

[dani87]

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Horosan is Turkish ancient city and Today it is in Turkmenistan's lands not Iran.It is destroyed by Mongols Today there is no Horasan.

ancient turkish city? there is no such thing. Turks do not engage and never did in building cities because behavior of that kind does not lye in Turkish nature.

Khorasan is a big region and a part of it is within the border of Iran.

edit: you just gotta explain this thing with "Horosan" being an ancient turkish city. Where did you get your info from, crazy stuff going on.

[Kanki]

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Khorassan is in Iran, not Turkmenistan. It does not belong to Turks. The Turkmens in Khorassan are comers.
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Horosan is Turkish ancient city and Today it is in Turkmenistan's lands not Iran.It is destroyed by Mongols Today there is no Horasan.