The Ottomans

[Hellektor]

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The Ottomans called the Armenians the "loyal" millet or community.

The Armenians did not ask for it but I doubt that it has ever occurred to any specimen of the Turkic parasite that:

“Did the Armenians ask the Turks to invade their home?
Did the Armenians ask, after 4000 years of civilization, the Turks who were in the lowest stages of evolution, to come and rule over them?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to subjugate this highly civilized ancient nation and become their masters?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to come and stop their progress?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to come and destroy their farmland, churches, monasteries, cemeteries, towns and cities?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to treat them like their reaya?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to settle the Kurds in Armenia to harass them for 500 years to make sure the Armenians would never summon up enough force to raise their heads and liberate their homeland from their barbaric yoke?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to steal their children for 500 years for janissary?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to change the name of their country, provinces, cities, towns, mountains, lakes and even flora and fauna?
Did the Armenians ask the Turks to still squat in their home after they exterminated the landlord?”

[robertik1]

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I concur Hellektor.

[Hellektor]

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both armenians and turks raised a common culture for several hundreds of years. notice the similarities between our music, cuisine etc. this doesn't mean that armenians were affected by turks or vice versa. it is a common culture to which both nations contributed.

Turks do not have a culture. Turks are not a nation. Get a life or get the fuck out.

[Hellektor]

Fukc The Ottomans

Of all of Armenia's neighbors and occupying powers, the Ottomans have probably had the greatest effect on Armenian mentality, psychology, way of life etc. Even now, on a given day, thousands of Armenians all over the world will tell each other 14th century Turkish folk philospher/homorist Nasreddin Hodja's wisecrack stories

I have never understood how on Earth such a worthless species of genocidal vermin, most vicious, atrocious, ferocious, seditious, pernicious, merciless, ruthless, useless, reeking, decomposing monstrosity ever to have leaked the trashcan of the universe, the two-legged Inhuman Civilization-deficiency Virus, the savage, nomadic, barbaric, bloodthirsty, primitive, tent-dwelling, cattle-herder, Ural-Altaic, Mongolo-Tatar, Oghuz-Turkmen abomination, the cancerous atrocity going by the four-letter vomit-inducing insult to humanity Turk that has invaded our home, stopped the natural course of our progress, destroyed our towns and cities, farmland, churches, monasteries and even our cemeteries; while infinitely inferior culturally and in the lowest stages of evolution has treated us, a cultured nation with millennia of civilization, as their reaya, used us to build their fucking “empire”, run their economy, feed their lazy hairless Tatar asses, stolen our children for 500 years for janissary and our women to lose their Mongoloid features, settled the Kurds in Armenia to harass us for 500 years, changed the name of our country, provinces, cities, towns and even flora and fauna, sucked our blood for the last thousand years and is still squatting in our home after they exterminated the landlord, can be so self-righteous. It has never failed to stupefy me and I am baffled every single time of this shameless brazenness of this miscreation from hell.

[Kanki]

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Also, as a Turk, you should know many of the words in your vocabulary are Iranian in origin.

yes I agree with you at this point. In addition we have a lot of words- originally Armenian language....

But I didn't mentioned human rights by saying they are weak.... I mentioned " In Ottoman and Seljuk age, they were weak-military,economy etc"

[lampron]

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Are they also active in the Turks and Caicos Islands?!?!

you may laugh, but Armenian millionaires (of whom there are thousands) have been very timid in investing in Armenia

By contrast Turkish businessmen ventured in large numbers into Russia, Ukraine and other ex-Soviet republics and today are reaping the benefits.

[ArmSurvival]

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Persia was always undeveloped and weak. . .

You can't be serious... Persians not only had the first human rights declaration in history (Cyrus the Great), they developed canal and irrigation systems that were centuries ahead of their time and are still used today. The idea of the park came from the Persian gardens. They developed the satrapy system of governing, which was used for hundreds of years not just by the Persian empire, but by Alexander the Great and the Greek Diadochi (successor) states. And Persians influenced Islam so much that I don't even know where to begin-- virtually the entire administration of the early Islamic empires was handled by Persian aristocrats and they greatly influenced many aspects of the Islamic faith and culture, including the architecture.

Also, as a Turk, you should know many of the words in your vocabulary are Iranian in origin.

[Kanki]

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Obviously, you didn't read my entire post and you didn't grasp the meaning. It's not so much the EU membership, as the inability to build both a functioning economy and a stable state. And that's what makes them "a sick man". The attempt at EU membership is only one of the symptoms of this sickness.

Turkey is not sick man, too much water followed under the bridge. And Turkey not similar with stupid Ottomans...

EU never accepts Turkey, never... In the other hand, Turks 57% don't want to EU. only 35% people want to join EU, they are like monkey, act their culture.

Turkey's adulator presedent want to join EU, But he is not presenting 57%

[lampron]

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...if I remember correctly, Turkey appled for membership as far back as 1963. Not there yet? Must be something sick about them......

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applying for membership means nothing. Almost anyone can apply. Morocco applied many years ago.Many in the EU today who are opposed because they say only a small part of Turkey is in Europe, imagine how many thought membership was a realistic prospect in 1963?

[lampron]

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Are you Turkish citizen?

No, I'm Armenian (born outside Turkey). But trying to look at the Ottoman empire and Turkey from a neutral perspective