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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Vahram90 View Post
      Yes vstah em, vor nor sistemnery arel en henc es shqerti hamar rusakan bazayic: 2012/13-in gnatc sistemner chen: Yete edpes liner Buki vra gone mi hrtir kliner u paterazmi zhamanak kasein, vor menq el Smerch unenq, voch te miayn vor hamarzheq zenq unenq (=WM-80): Hatkapes yete hashvi arnenq, te inchqan er shaharkvum Smerchi xndiry: Ekeq azniv linenq, ed bolor kartery cuyc chtaly edqan hamozich chi hnchum yete Iskandery cuyc es talis: Ed qo nshatc zenqery cuyc chen tvel vorovhetev der chunenq:
      Ankax ameninchic uzhex banak a, aveli lav a ush es zenqery arnenq qan yerbeve:
      Iskandernere cuic tvelen 1 npatakov. Mot apagayi paterazme hetadzkelu hamar. isk en muis Tos Mos petkel chi vor cuic tan (et sax vor cuic tan hayere, rusnere kxpen mer gelxin kasen kez aseleyink cuic chtas vortev eti hazar w mi khntir karachacni Azerineri het w eti irants petk chi vortev mec shuka unen Aderbejanum). Sencov asin nayi kxpem baku chvokevorves w verch.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
        Avtobaza M missing
        Tos missing
        AR1A missing
        Iskander M and not E
        And else.

        If we show our all weaponry/arsenal with the exact details what is left for the surprises? If you go back in 2012 there was The K-2 locally produced multiple rocket launcher. Don't you think that after 4 years we must have achieved another and much better system? Don't you think we have the upgraded versions of Krung UAVs after successful production of the krungs bazes and X-55?? In 4 years multiple competitions were held for UAV production. Just know that its an old Soviet mentality not to show all your cards. We never heard about the KUBs not even they showed during any of the parades but come and see suddenly we showed the new KUBs when no one even spoke about acquiring such kind of systems. I believe that the smerches and the iskanders were there back in 2012-13. simply we are showing them when we have something better/anti than that missiles. I even believe that by now we already have suicide UAVs. I mean if you can produce UAV is it that hard to make it a suicide one?

        Why do you think Azerbaijan just today Unveiled their new UAV? http://en.apa.az/azerbaijan-military...new-drone.html

        Now if after a year Azerbaijan shows that it acquired new weapons then boom you'll see the TOS during a military exercise.
        I think we showed everything we have. We simply don't have the luxury to keep our weapons in secret anymore. We had to show our current power to avoid another war and i think we did it really well.

        It's clear for me that we gave up the idea of having the 200m. weapons.

        Instead we did another deal with Russians and took weapons -we have seen- from the Russian base. Which was not only a better deal but something necessary for insuring the safety of Armenia & NKR. We couldn't just sit and wait 2018 for receiving some stuff from Russia.
        Last edited by AstalaVist; 09-21-2016, 02:27 AM.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
          Iskandernere cuic tvelen 1 npatakov. Mot apagayi paterazme hetadzkelu hamar. isk en muis Tos Mos petkel chi vor cuic tan (et sax vor cuic tan hayere, rusnere kxpen mer gelxin kasen kez aseleyink cuic chtas vortev eti hazar w mi khntir karachacni Azerineri het w eti irants petk chi vortev mec shuka unen Aderbejanum). Sencov asin nayi kxpem baku chvokevorves w verch.
          Shat jisht es. I was told by a high ranking official that Armenia acquired the Smerch and Iskander early 2012 .. the only reason we showed them off was because of the 4 day war. The TOS was a smart move not to show to get the Azeri pest thinking that if they are not showing off the TOS which we know they possess, then What else is in there armoury..

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by ASALA2116 View Post
            Finally I'm logged back in. What a great parade. I tried watching it at Republic Square but due to the crowd I ended up on Amiryan to watch the military equipment roll in. Looks like we equipped ourselves heavily. The only thing we didn't see was the TOS , but it's a pointless system in our terrain. Loved how the crowd were cheering for our soldiers. The atmosphere was just perfect. The Special Forces were wearing Camel Baks something I asked many months ago. Loved also the knee and elbow pads.
            Welcome back ASALA!!i couldn't log in for a month also,that problem needs fixing
            Last edited by armo12; 09-21-2016, 02:39 AM.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
              Iskandernere cuic tvelen 1 npatakov. Mot apagayi paterazme hetadzkelu hamar. isk en muis Tos Mos petkel chi vor cuic tan (et sax vor cuic tan hayere, rusnere kxpen mer gelxin kasen kez aseleyink cuic chtas vortev eti hazar w mi khntir karachacni Azerineri het w eti irants petk chi vortev mec shuka unen Aderbejanum). Sencov asin nayi kxpem baku chvokevorves w verch.
              Iskanderov paterazmi vtangy chi ancnum: Paterazmy cuyc tvec vor adrbejany total paterazmi chi dzktum (ed vochxarnery edqan dux chunen vor yerkar kriv sksen, iranq el mi qani amis rmbakotcven): U yete eli qarorya paterazmi scenarov hardzakven, du qo Iskanderov ho ches hardzakvi Baqvi vra? Enpes vor yete paterazm es uzum hetadzgel piti qo konventional zenqery cuyc tas, orinak nor tanker, TOS, lriv nor handerdzanq zinvorneri hamar:
              Menq ed 200 milion varki zenqery der chenq stacel, isk es nor sistemnery vercrel en rusakan bazayic, inchy iharke CHI NSHANAKUM, vor da mery chi: Im mijayloc yete lav lses, ktesnes vor ed shqerty meknabanogh kinn el e asum, vor "ays hamakargery verjers en hamalrel mer banaki sharqery" kam nman mi ban: Bayc chem hishum konkret vor sistemin er veraberum

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Vahram90 View Post
                Iskanderov paterazmi vtangy chi ancnum: Paterazmy cuyc tvec vor adrbejany total paterazmi chi dzktum (ed vochxarnery edqan dux chunen vor yerkar kriv sksen, iranq el mi qani amis rmbakotcven): U yete eli qarorya paterazmi scenarov hardzakven, du qo Iskanderov ho ches hardzakvi Baqvi vra? Enpes vor yete paterazm es uzum hetadzgel piti qo konventional zenqery cuyc tas, orinak nor tanker, TOS, lriv nor handerdzanq zinvorneri hamar:
                Menq ed 200 milion varki zenqery der chenq stacel, isk es nor sistemnery vercrel en rusakan bazayic, inchy iharke CHI NSHANAKUM, vor da mery chi: Im mijayloc yete lav lses, ktesnes vor ed shqerty meknabanogh kinn el e asum, vor "ays hamakargery verjers en hamalrel mer banaki sharqery" kam nman mi ban: Bayc chem hishum konkret vor sistemin er veraberum
                Smerchi masin asec vor es tariya hamalrvel banakin.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by burjuin View Post
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                  1:13 ropein asvum a vor ays storabazhanumnery (Smerchi masin e xosqy) henc ays tari en ancel martakan hertapahutyan:

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Iskander missiles will not be used in an April-style war that is confined to Artsakh. Iskander acquisition is designed to prevent a large scale war between Armenia and Azerbaijan or only to be used if sh!t ever hits the fan in Artsakh. Can't reply by bombing Baku if Azerbaijan is shelling Martakert.
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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Vahram90 View Post
                      1:13 ropein asvum a vor ays storabazhanumnery (Smerchi masin e xosqy) henc ays tari en ancel martakan hertapahutyan:
                      I think its different things buying/acquiring and putting into service.

                      There has to be a training/familiarization period.

                      Up to our army to decide when they can be put into service effectively.

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                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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