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Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

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  • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations



    This article explains armenias situation rather well and it shows as i have been saying that its leaders are really trying to do whats best for the country but they can only do so much while the big powers play their games. As i concluded earlier Armenia has no choice but to align itself with russia since the west along with the turcks would like nothing better then to see her gone for good.Instead of calling them bad names i give them credit for trying despite the bad odds(hallmark of leadership), since the gestures to the west went unrewarded armenia has no choice but to be under russias domination (untill of course muckuch and his powerfull imaginery army conquer the world).
    Hayastan or Bust.

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    • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

      The above is a good article Haykakan, and it explains the bloody double standard that both Israel alongside the US played on Armenia. I say they both simply played (dirty games) on Armenia to forego for once and for all the Genocide recognition and our vital cause. I am sooooo mad.

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      • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        What he meant to say...
        Thanks for "translation"

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        • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

          Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
          I know, which would've been a perfectly decent post that deserves a perfectly decent reply.
          Well is the form that important?
          Who wanted to understand the meaning have understood, and if someone haven’t than he wouldn’t anyway

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          • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

            yeah, I know Mukuch, but yes, the form must nonetheless abide by the rules.

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            • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

              I told you so!
              /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian authorities will not make unilateral
              concession with regard to Karabakh, in particular, RA President
              will never allow NKR to be considered an Azeri-controlled territory,
              RPA spokesman Edward Sharmazanov told journalists in Yerevan.

              NKR's land border with Armenia is very important for Armenian
              authorities. It is necessary to guarantee the country's security,
              the speaker said. "NKR people have a right to self-determination,
              and Azeri colleagues should realize and admit NKR people's right
              to self-determination and recognize the country's independence,"
              he stated.

              Armenia favors peaceful settlement of Nagorno Karabakh conflict within
              OSCE MG format. "Turkey cannot be a mediator in talks," Sharmazanov
              stressed, adding that NKR is a more accomplished, democratic and
              developed state in comparison with Azerbaijan and Armenia
              Hayastan or Bust.

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              • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                I told you so!
                /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian authorities will not make unilateral
                concession with regard to Karabakh, in particular, RA President
                will never allow NKR to be considered an Azeri-controlled territory,
                RPA spokesman Edward Sharmazanov told journalists in Yerevan.

                NKR's land border with Armenia is very important for Armenian
                authorities. It is necessary to guarantee the country's security,
                the speaker said. "NKR people have a right to self-determination,
                and Azeri colleagues should realize and admit NKR people's right
                to self-determination and recognize the country's independence,"
                he stated.

                Armenia favors peaceful settlement of Nagorno Karabakh conflict within
                OSCE MG format. "Turkey cannot be a mediator in talks," Sharmazanov
                stressed, adding that NKR is a more accomplished, democratic and
                developed state in comparison with Azerbaijan and Armenia
                So what?
                What else you expected Sharmazanov to say to armenian press?
                That just means that they will not give up Karabakh "for nothing" (unilateral concessions), doesn’t mean they wouldn’t sell it

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                • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                  Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
                  So what?
                  What else you expected Sharmazanov to say to armenian press?
                  That just means that they will not give up Karabakh "for nothing" (unilateral concessions), doesn’t mean they wouldn’t sell it
                  Unless its a recognized land body of Armenia, its fair game to be tugged around like Ossetia.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                    Serj and his buddies like kocharian ousted ltp during much worst times to save kharabagh and here you are implying they are going to sell it. Much of the present government is from kharanagh and most in yerevan think too much of it is kharabaghtsis, there is now way they are selling kharabagh! They may give up some of the surrounding regions but they will get something of value in return. It makes me laughf when i hear you say they are going to sell it lol.
                    I think Kanadahye has a good point in that i also think that armenia should recognize it but realisticly no one else will.
                    Hayastan or Bust.

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                    • Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      They may give up some of the surrounding regions but they will get something of value in return. It makes me laughf when i hear you say they are going to sell it lol.
                      Read again what you wrote... LOL ?


                      Surrounding regions? Isn’t it the land I and other 30.000 guys have paid with blood?
                      Last edited by Mukuch; 06-25-2009, 07:38 AM.

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