Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

If they owned the apartments they would be owners but they did not own, if they paid rent they would be renters but nowhere did your article imply that rent was paid, Squatter implies they are there illegally which does not seem to be the case. Thus these people do not seem to fit into any of the categories you describe.

The article says that they were initially there because they (or family members) were employed inside the Russian military base. They are called "service apartments" in the text. And I don't see why that should have changed - there is nothing said in the text that they are not, or that they are retired. So it seems more likely either the accomodation is paid for as part of their wages or is an informal perk of employment, or, most likely, they do pay some rent but do not have security of tenancy because they are service appartments. The problem is thus the very short eviction notice period, and their annoyance that they were not allowed to buy their appartments like everyone else but were still expected to pay for their upgrading over the years (and now it is some newly-arrived Russians who will benefit from the improvements to the flats they made). That seems plenty of things to be complaining about.

Those who were there who were Armenian citizens were later allowed to buy their flats (which suggests that the flats were - and the unsold ones still are - actually owned by the Armenian state), but those who were Russian citizens were not allowed to do this under Armenian law, even though they were ethnic Armenian.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

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SS at Strasburg, reference to Karabagh and EU at 2.00 - 6.00 min

[TomServo]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

But i though all things western were wonderfully infallible and that we should disregard all matters of our security and bow down before the west....

I can actually criticize things both Eastern and Western. It's amazing, I know!

You should try it sometime instead of prostrating yourself before Putin and Russia.

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

If they owned the apartments they would be owners but they did not own, if they paid rent they would be renters but nowhere did your article imply that rent was paid, Squatter implies they are there illegally which does not seem to be the case. Thus these people do not seem to fit into any of the categories you describe.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

its right here man in the article you posted " they had applied for privatization on time but they were rejected" this means those apartments were never theirs.

Don't you know the difference between an owner-occupier, a tenant, and a squatter?

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Obama was actually a laureate (I doubt Putin will be) but definitely was not deserving. But if you look at the list of recipients there are several questionable choices down the line.

But i though all things western were wonderfully infallible and that we should disregard all matters of our security and bow down before the west....

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

its right here man in the article you posted " they had applied for privatization on time but they were rejected" this means those apartments were never theirs. I would bet they had plenty of other warnings long before now, many of these articles seem very biased.

Too true: Russia has bought and paid for Armenia, so it can do whatever it likes with its own property. If it wants to import 10000 Russians into Gyumri (3000 families mean at least 10000 people) that's fine - it's not as if that many Armenians want the place, they can go live in America or Russia or a hole in the ground (10 days notice of eviction is more than enough time to dig a family-size hole, and holes in the ground were good enough for the average citizen of Gyumri 200 years ago before the Russians arrived).

I don't know where you get the info that they "lived in those apartments for decades without paying for them" - there is no such suggestion in the news reports. And it says little for Armenian justice that tenents can be evicted from property they have been living in for decades with only 10 days notice.

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Too true: Russia has bought and paid for Armenia, so it can do whatever it likes with its own property. If it wants to import 10000 Russians into Gyumri (3000 families mean at least 10000 people) that's fine - it's not as if that many Armenians want the place, they can go live in America or Russia or a hole in the ground

And you came to this conclusion from the article.....wow, just wow
Armenian homeless dig a hole in the ground......some haters will see what they want to see Haykakan.

Armenians biggest disadvantage is that we have good hearts.

[TomServo]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

More deserving than Dronebama.

Obama was actually a laureate (I doubt Putin will be) but definitely was not deserving. But if you look at the list of recipients there are several questionable choices down the line.

[Federate]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Putin has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.

More deserving than Dronebama.