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Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

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  • Eddo211
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    Not that "3000-year-old civilisation"-thing again.
    Not sure what you talking about, civilized?.....but you know what I meant and all you got is a weak response.

    Stop posting your selected stupid articles and calling other members here racists and stupid wtf wrong with you
    now you are trolling the NKR thread


    Haykakan didn't the US increase its aid to Armenia just recently?

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Nah im not insulting you - i am just saying your argument is weak. You make it sound that progress is impossible wo USA involvement but that is not true at all and you have the progress during the soviet years to prove it. America deciding to invest or not to invest in Armenia is not entirely up to Armenia you know it takes two to tango.. America as a matter of fact seems to have a reactionary attitude towards Armenia by declaring perfectly fine products as defective and unfit for import every time Armenia makes a move that is not in line with USA dictate. As you can see your argument is very far from "unassailable"

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    "Your idea of security is what? Being in a country whose formerly advanced industrial and technological and educational base has decayed down to about the equivalent of banging rocks together (i.e. raw materials extraction)?"
    Bell you are admonishing others for not reading deeper into things yet look at what you are writing yourself. Like how do you think Armenia got that advanced industrial, technological, educational base in the first place? I do not think it was gotton under the leadership of the USA as a matter of fact i am sure it happened under the soviet union led by the ruskies so many here seem to despise. You are contradicting the very point you are trying to make and that is pretty lame considering some of the stuff you have written before were actually thought provoking to some level. Now you are no more then many of the other rusophobes on this forum rambling aimlessly into oblivion.
    I just wrote on another thread "On Hyeclub an ad hominem attack is the standard response to any unassailable argument or uncontestable fact" -and you have proved me right by just doing it!

    It appears that you cannot dispute the fact that Armenia's formerly advanced industrial and technological and educational base has, since independence, decayed down to the level of raw materials extraction, and you cannot dispute that this collapse has dangerously undermined Armenia's security, and that having not a single American company making serious investments in Armenia will not help matters - so instead you throw (what you) consider to be an insult: "Rusophobe".
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 10-13-2013, 12:44 PM.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    "Your idea of security is what? Being in a country whose formerly advanced industrial and technological and educational base has decayed down to about the equivalent of banging rocks together (i.e. raw materials extraction)?"
    Bell you are admonishing others for not reading deeper into things yet look at what you are writing yourself. Like how do you think Armenia got that advanced industrial, technological, educational base in the first place? I do not think it was gotton under the leadership of the USA as a matter of fact i am sure it happened under the soviet union led by the ruskies so many here seem to despise. You are contradicting the very point you are trying to make and that is pretty lame considering some of the stuff you have written before were actually thought provoking to some level. Now you are no more then many of the other rusophobes on this forum rambling aimlessly into oblivion.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
    I knew better! he's got some sort of ingrained disorder.

    I just loved it how he attempted to indirectly respond to me by saying, "I've got better things to do than dissect it all," as if he's really preoccupied with real life stuff.
    I actually expect any adult with a functioning brain and an awareness of how to read media sources to be able to read that article and recognise its propaganda content and be disgusted by it. But you, as a cretin and a racist bigot, would not be able to do that. It isn't my job to try to educate cretins (if such a thing is possible) - so that is why I did not dissect the article. Stick to reading New York Post articles, or watching Fox News or listening to bawling babies - that's obviously your level of reading skills and the limits of your aspirations if you approve of the type of low-grade "journalism" exhibited in that arminfo article.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 10-13-2013, 08:06 AM.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    ancient people like Armenians.
    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    time enmortal.
    Not that "3000-year-old civilisation"-thing again.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 10-13-2013, 12:45 PM.

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  • Artsakh
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    I suppose one can only hope.....well it was a good thought.
    I knew better! he's got some sort of ingrained disorder.

    I just loved it how he attempted to indirectly respond to me by saying, "I've got better things to do than dissect it all," as if he's really preoccupied with real life stuff.
    Last edited by Artsakh; 10-12-2013, 07:09 PM.

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  • Eddo211
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    Thank God for that......enjoy your vacation from Hyclub laddy and contemplate how the world is ran with full of evil people compared to little Armenia fighting for her survival time enmortal.

    Vaya con dios
    I suppose one can only hope.....well it was a good thought.

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  • Eddo211
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    "no serious project has been implemented in Armenia by any serious American company"
    That is true....maybe if the US was a regional leader on these cursed lands Armenia would most likely love to get serious but until then the geopolitics of this times dictates otherwise considering the security of Armenia and neither you me or anyone on this forum would know what that is.

    Your idea of security is what? Being in a country whose formerly advanced industrial and technological and educational base has decayed down to about the equivalent of banging rocks together (i.e. raw materials extraction)?
    That is not true.....for example Armenia is already exporting her own made UAVs to other countries.

    - I hope that in some other thread you will not claim the future of Armenia is to be some sort of an international IT hub (someone was claiming this in another thread recently) - because no serious project like that could ever be implemented without the partnership of American companies.
    There is only so much a country in distress of constant war and endless blockade can do......and you cannot send Borgs to surround ancient people like Armenians and then complain why they do not join the collective.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    So what do you suggest bell? We should dump our security partner for another who provides no security? Just look at what the USA has done to the middle east. The USA is just another empire but it in no way provides us with security from its good friend the Turk. Why would we go with a NPP from them given these circumstances?
    "no serious project has been implemented in Armenia by any serious American company"

    Your idea of security is what? Being in a country whose formerly advanced industrial and technological and educational base has decayed down to about the equivalent of banging rocks together (i.e. raw materials extraction)?

    - I hope that in some other thread you will not claim the future of Armenia is to be some sort of an international IT hub (someone was claiming this in another thread recently, and this sort of thing http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/25127288.html) - because no serious project like that could ever be implemented without the partnership of American companies.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 10-13-2013, 09:05 AM.

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