Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Looks like we are going back to "lragir"'s zombie anti government mumblings. Yea it is very short time that Iran has new leader, and before that our government did everything to keep relations worm, despite Western efforts to isolate Iran. Even western diplomats were admitting that Armenian government was masterfully maintaining and progressing relations with Iran against US wishes. Now this sold out media (sold to west) tries to portray that our goverment has not been doing enough. Bunch of marazm. In this last diplomatic game between Yerevan and Tehran about energy, lragir is coming out of its skin to prove Iran's side and discredit our government.

Can you please post an article in Lragir, of that period, criticizing RA policy of cooperation with Iran in Energy sphere??

[Hakob]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Can you please post an article in Lragir, of that period, criticizing RA policy of cooperation with Iran in Energy sphere??

Is There Official Yerevan?

Hakob Badalyan, Political Commentator
Comments - Wednesday, 08 January 2014, 16:21


The Armenian prime minister described the statement by the Iranian ambassador that the gas price depends on negotiations and gas could cost 400 for one and 100 for another as a “diplomatic mistake”, noting that over the past three years Armenia has presented the opposite claim to Armenia – raise the price of gas which is supplied to Armenia and Armenia pays Iran 3 kW/hour electricity per one cu m of gas.
Tehran has not reacted to the “diplomatic mistake”. However, the ambassador of Iran had made several crisp and clear statements at the end of the past year, including on gas and electricity. He said the correlation of the aforementioned deal is not favorable for Iran, and Iran does not need to import electricity but Armenia needs it and Tehran helps. At that time the ambassador announced that the price of gas depends on negotiations.
Official Tehran needs to make it clear once again whether they are ready to negotiate buying gas from Iran more cheaply than the Russian gas. On the other hand, Iran has hinted that everything depends on official Yerevan’s wish. Tehran will not bother much to sell cheap gas to Armenia while official Yerevan refuses to negotiate cheap gas.
Whatever Iran has stated or not stated for three years is one thing, and what it is saying now is something else. Iran has a new president, there is a new international situation relating to Iran and in the region in general, Armenia is going to join the Customs Union after which Russia will set to annex Artsakh. Iran could have revised its approaches over three years. Three years ago the presidents of Iran and the United States did not telephone each other and a few months ago they did. Three years ago the relations between Iran and the West were escalating while now the opposite tendency is noticed.
Official Yerevan should take everything into consideration. Or it would take into account if it existed. However, there is no wish to negotiate cheap gas with Iran because official Yerevan does not exist and instead there is an annex to Moscow, a department of the Russian foreign minister, and Moscow does not have such a wish. Why should Moscow be interested in Armenia buying cheap gas from Iran?
Moreover, Moscow has prevented such possibilities through the Armenian-Russian gas deal which stipulates that Armenia will buy gas from Gazprom only until 2043. In this context, the statements of the Iranian ambassador are a “diplomatic mistake” so it is hard to find a publishable definition of the Armenian-Russian gas deal.
Due to the policy of the government aimed at depriving Armenia of the status of international political subject and transforming it to an attaché of Moscow’s policy the Republic of Armenia is facing the danger of a “geopolitical mistake” only because the people who have usurped government in Armenia are deprived of dignity of the nation.
- See more at: http://www.lragir.am/index/eng/0/com....tP1MUI2W.dpuf

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Is There Official Yerevan?

Hakob Badalyan, Political Commentator
Comments - Wednesday, 08 January 2014, 16:21


The Armenian prime minister described the statement by the Iranian ambassador that the gas price depends on negotiations and gas could cost 400 for one and 100 for another as a “diplomatic mistake”, noting that over the past three years Armenia has presented the opposite claim to Armenia – raise the price of gas which is supplied to Armenia and Armenia pays Iran 3 kW/hour electricity per one cu m of gas.
Tehran has not reacted to the “diplomatic mistake”. However, the ambassador of Iran had made several crisp and clear statements at the end of the past year, including on gas and electricity. He said the correlation of the aforementioned deal is not favorable for Iran, and Iran does not need to import electricity but Armenia needs it and Tehran helps. At that time the ambassador announced that the price of gas depends on negotiations.
Official Tehran needs to make it clear once again whether they are ready to negotiate buying gas from Iran more cheaply than the Russian gas. On the other hand, Iran has hinted that everything depends on official Yerevan’s wish. Tehran will not bother much to sell cheap gas to Armenia while official Yerevan refuses to negotiate cheap gas.
Whatever Iran has stated or not stated for three years is one thing, and what it is saying now is something else. Iran has a new president, there is a new international situation relating to Iran and in the region in general, Armenia is going to join the Customs Union after which Russia will set to annex Artsakh. Iran could have revised its approaches over three years. Three years ago the presidents of Iran and the United States did not telephone each other and a few months ago they did. Three years ago the relations between Iran and the West were escalating while now the opposite tendency is noticed.
Official Yerevan should take everything into consideration. Or it would take into account if it existed. However, there is no wish to negotiate cheap gas with Iran because official Yerevan does not exist and instead there is an annex to Moscow, a department of the Russian foreign minister, and Moscow does not have such a wish. Why should Moscow be interested in Armenia buying cheap gas from Iran?
Moreover, Moscow has prevented such possibilities through the Armenian-Russian gas deal which stipulates that Armenia will buy gas from Gazprom only until 2043. In this context, the statements of the Iranian ambassador are a “diplomatic mistake” so it is hard to find a publishable definition of the Armenian-Russian gas deal.
Due to the policy of the government aimed at depriving Armenia of the status of international political subject and transforming it to an attaché of Moscow’s policy the Republic of Armenia is facing the danger of a “geopolitical mistake” only because the people who have usurped government in Armenia are deprived of dignity of the nation.
- See more at: http://www.lragir.am/index/eng/0/com....tP1MUI2W.dpuf

Dear,
You posted the english translation of the article I just posted.
Or you did not understand my question, or you play fool.
So please let me put it more extensively.
You accuse, the West of criticizing the Armenian government's cooperation with Iran in the past. A point that is only partially true, but that's not the matter.
Then you accuse Lragir of being sold out to the West, and thus anything it can publish is qualified as marasm by yourself.
I ask you, to post a Lragir article, from that past period, where, according your logic, as a blind servant of the Western interests, Lragir should have criticised the Armenian Policy of cooperation with Iran in Energy Sphere.

[Hakob]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Dear,
You posted the english translation of the article I just posted.
Or you did not understand my question, or you play fool.
So please let me put it more extensively.
You accuse, the West of criticizing the Armenian government's cooperation with Iran in the past. A point that is only partially true, but that's not the matter.
Then you accuse Lragir of being sold out to the West, and thus anything it can publish is qualified as marasm by yourself.
I ask you, to post a Lragir article, from that past period, where, according your logic, as a blind servant of the Western interests, Lragir should have criticized the Armenian Policy of cooperation with Iran in Energy Sphere.

Vrej, please read my post one more time for what am I really saying. You are asking an irrelevant question, because I am accusing lragir of criticizing (criticizing is not enough word) our government of not negotiating with Iran exactly now, when relations of Iran and west are thawing. Why was not lragir critisizing government before, about not trying to buy more gas or getting more close relationship with Iran? Why not then, but now when it's safe with west to criticize our government with this subject?
Before current Iran-west thawing, it would not serve western interests to bring the subject of closer relations with Iran for a euroservant "lragir" right?
Badalian automatically admits "Whatever Iran has stated or not stated for three years is one thing, and what it is saying now is something else. Iran has a new president, there is a new international situation relating to Iran and in the region in general", "three years ago the presidents of Iran and the United States did not telephone each other and a few months ago they did. Three years ago the relations between Iran and the West were escalating while now the opposite tendency is noticed."
He views Armenia-Iran relations from point of west not from Armenia's interests. Otherwise Badalian or anybody from "lragir" would bring up the issue and criticise the government for not "doing enough starting from 1995".
Also, "lragir' is not just critisizing. It basically repeats word for word whatever azeri and turkish media are spreading about our government for their own propaganda. Things like "Armenian government does not exist", "Armenian government is a vassal of russia", "Armenians want to annex Karabakh to russia", "Armenia is never independent", "Armenian government is an usurper" etc, etc.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej, please read my post one more time for what am I really saying. You are asking an irrelevant question, because I am accusing lragir of criticizing (criticizing is not enough word) our government of not negotiating with Iran exactly now, when relations of Iran and west are thawing. Why was not lragir critisizing government before, about not trying to buy more gas or getting more close relationship with Iran? Why not then, but now when it's safe with west to criticize our government with this subject?
Before current Iran-west thawing, it would not serve western interests to bring the subject of closer relations with Iran for a euroservant "lragir" right?
Badalian automatically admits "Whatever Iran has stated or not stated for three years is one thing, and what it is saying now is something else. Iran has a new president, there is a new international situation relating to Iran and in the region in general", "three years ago the presidents of Iran and the United States did not telephone each other and a few months ago they did. Three years ago the relations between Iran and the West were escalating while now the opposite tendency is noticed."
He views Armenia-Iran relations from point of west not from Armenia's interests. Otherwise Badalian or anybody from "lragir" would bring up the issue and criticise the government for not "doing enough starting from 1995".
Also, "lragir' is not just critisizing. It basically repeats word for word whatever azeri and turkish media are spreading about our government for their own propaganda. Things like "Armenian government does not exist", "Armenian government is a vassal of russia", "Armenians want to annex Karabakh to russia", "Armenia is never independent", "Armenian government is an usurper" etc, etc.

Dear, You are turning things upside down.
You would be better inspired, if you conter the arguments of the article, rather than the container, as you do so often.

The question was ever present, I sent you back at the time of the construction of the Gas pipe between Kajaran and Tavriz. Back then the Russians did their most, to minimize the diameter of the tube, and back then, the same did criticize the Government.
Later, the same corrupt guys, sold in a magic transaction, the Armenia/Iran Gas Pipe, that WAS NOT PART OF HAYRUSGAZART, to the latter, and the same guys did criticise, just as today...

Why now?
Because it is now that Serjik is selling the last remnants of our statehood, and it is now, that the Iranian ambassador is proposing gas at 100 USD...

And why is azeri point of view, to begin with? Does a reality automatically stops being such, just because the azaris or turks state it, and use the sad reality in their propaganda?
Look at the other side of the medal. The Armenian media is full of arguments, about the corrupt character of Ilham Aliyev and his regime. Does that mean automatically, (from an azari point of view), that all that is marazm, slander, just because the enemy says so??

Was not Serjik the Voralez, who did every effort, to please Putin, and save his seat, just on Dec 2, Sept 3....? Or was it not reality??
Was that not the Tavajan Sejik, with his hilarious laugh, sitting and pleasing Mr Gul, in the center of Yerevan, to please the West and Russia in the same time? Was not him who changed the emblem of the Armenian football federation, taking off Mount Ararat, to please the Turks? (A symbol that did survive under communist regime, but Serjik dared, because he has no sense of National pride, and he is not the unique in his case. Most comsomol made minds, today at most decision making posts, are the product of the same extruder....., that's why they do survive so well). And what was the result of all that indignity??
Was not Serjik the one stating that Akna(aka Agdam) was not his fatherland (in his words, ours)? just to give credentials in Moskwa and the West, earning his seat as President, as one ready to any concessions and the least nationalist ?? (at least from his point of view..)
Was not Serjik, while sill minister, the stupid guy, believing in Armenicum?, Do you remember that thing?? For a couple of years, was not him, who made all the fuss about that marvelous scam?? All over the TV?? If anything this sole example is enough, how unwise, to say the least, he really is.... Do you remember all the money that he invested, for that ridiculous forgery, while honestly believing (and this is the real sad point, the fact that he beleived in it!!) in that extravgant, kazakho/russo/mafioso/copperfieldo scam??
Or is it the chess boards he likes to display every here and there, that gains him his credentials?

Do you genuinly think he does mind a fraction of a second, about National interests???

[Serjik]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

Bro your so annoying. It was Vazgen that made armenicum into a big deal. The only tavajan is you not our Mr. President the one you call "Serjik". Unless you are talking about me LOL! Why dont you send me your real identity in a private message I going to confirm if you are a NKR war veteran or not. I dare you if you are a man. My uncle in Yerevan is involved with veterans and he knows lots of people. I will cut off my left nut if you are a real war veteran like you have some here fooled to believe.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Have no time to waste for morons, but just for the too young to remember, the first google result....., if not go on, feel free to do your own research....


Armenicum Information Page

Armenia Has AIDS Cure, Claims Serge Sarkisian
YEREVAN (Noyan Tapan, RFE, BBC)
"Although the medicine has not yet been officially registered, it can be said already that the results of the test are most promising and there is hardly any comparisons to be drawn between this drug and others we know," he said.

Sarkisian told state television on Friday that a group of doctors working in Armenia have produced the cure following a long research. Sarkisian said the vaccine has already been successfully tested on 13 individuals, infected with AIDS, until now deemed incurable. In his words, all of them have been ridden of the deadly disease Sarkisian refused to give details saying only that the new medicine will be registered on Tuesday with a government agency dealing with drugs.
He said the research, kept secret, has been "sponsored" by himself and unspecified entrepreneurs.

Meanwhile, an informed source told RFE/RL that a secret research on AIDS has taken place in Armenia in the last two years and it was led by Levon Mkhitarian, the country's chief infection doctor. The source said the research's secrecy has been carefully guarded by national security officers.

The BBC reported, quoting Ekho Moskvy (Voice of Moscow) radio, that Sarkisian assured viewers that the world would soon be rocked by what Armenian scientists had discovered.

The minister was confident that the discovery would have a favorable effect on Armenia 's economy.

All of the 13 AIDS-stricken and HIV-infected people showed positive results two months after they started to use the medicine. In addition to the experimentally obtained data, such as the quantity of CD-4-lymphocytes reflecting the degree of human immunity and the virus concentration in blood, patients were observed to feel much better. All researches had been financed by private businesses with the immediate assistance of the personnel of the Republican Center for AIDS Prevention and Control. Interior Minister Serge Sarkisian actively helped the research program, Gabrielian said. Six months ago Sarkisian confirmed the presence of 13 AIDS-stricken and HIV-infected prisoners in penitentiaries.

Gabrielian believes that Armenia has all the appropriate conditions to manufacture the new medicine, the name of which includes the word "Armenicum." The full name of the drug will be announced after it is officially registered and a corresponding statement is made. It can be expected in the near future

[Serjik]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

You just proved me that you are a fake and an idiot. EVERYBODY knows armenicum was Vazgen Sarkisians project. He even want on television to promote it in the middle of the 1990s. Vazgen was the most powerful man in armenia at that time. Serj Sargsyan was an official during that time so of course there will be some reports with his name in them. Bro, just PM me your identity I want to see how brave war veteran you are. the only thin you were doing during the war was playing with yourself.

[Mher]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Vrej

You just proved me that you are a fake and an idiot. EVERYBODY knows armenicum was Vazgen Sarkisians project. He even want on television to promote it in the middle of the 1990s. Vazgen was the most powerful man in armenia at that time. Serj Sargsyan was an official during that time so of course there will be some reports with his name in them. Bro, just PM me your identity I want to see how brave war veteran you are. the only thin you were doing during the war was playing with yourself.

"bro" i think it's high time you learn to shut your mouth
if you can't debate someone without insulting them in every single sentence, you need to go away and come back in a few years when you're a little more mature

[Artashes]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

"bro" i think it's high time you learn to shut your mouth
if you can't debate someone without insulting them in every single sentence, you need to go away and come back in a few years when you're a little more mature

100%!!!
Absolutely no reason to be rude or insulting.
Make your point with respectful civility.
By your own admission , you do not know who you are talking to.
STOP with the insults.