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  • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by Mher View Post
    Hey do you have an exact source for the Azeri-Turkish part

    Here

    It is a turkish site

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    • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

      Originally posted by Hakob View Post
      If they are liberals or prowesterns, then how come they are so categorically against and protest the implementation of mandatory pension contributions law? It is a main component in every capitalistic western democracy. Like social security in USA.
      The reason is that ...........
      Only Rasputin could have come up with such an idea.

      The government having miserably failed in running the economy due to its corruption and incompetence,
      with growing poverty levels has decided to “worry” about the people’s pension.

      They are looking for ways to cream ( cream ???) off the income of a small proportion of the population who could be classified as “better off”.
      The money to be invested in foreign countries.

      The people and the oppositions are right to oppose this stupid idea.

      For a starters the subject was not debated properly in the parliament.

      Contributory pension schemes are ( should be) voluntary and not compulsory.

      Taking money from people’s salary against their will is unconstitutional.

      Private (non governmental) pension plans are a luxury afforded by rich countries
      meaning they supplement an already subsistence state pension and never are the primary pension.

      Contributory pension plans have a horrible history of failure to deliver.

      They depend on the plan manager(s) to perform, traded successfully.
      Most of the plans are tied to the stock markets.
      Stock markets are not wealth generating activity but a zero sum game, same as gambling,
      meaning for every winner there is a looser.
      Therefore by definition the plan cannot guarantee a promised return.

      They also depend when you retire, luck.
      If you are lucky and retire when the markets are buoyant your return will be better than another
      who retires or forced into early retirement coinciding with a bear market.

      There is a huge suspicion and a lack of trust in the government due to its incompetence and corruption.
      These plans will last typically for 30-40 years.
      Try and tell me who will be held responsible if pension returns are inadequate.
      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

        Originally posted by Hakob View Post
        thank you

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        • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

          Դեսպան․ Հայաստանը Իրանի հետ երբեք չի քննարկել գազ գնելու հարցը


          06.12.2013
          Հայաստանի իշխանությունները Իրանի հետ երբեք չեն քննարկել գազ գնելու հարցը: Այդ մասին այսօր հայտարարեց Հայաստանում Իրանի դեսպան Մուհամմադ Ռեիսին:

          Նա պարզաբանեց, որ խոսքը ոչ թե գազ՝ էլեկտրաէներգիայի դիմաց գործարքի մասին է, այլ Հայաստանի սպառողների համար գազ գնելու:


          Սարգիս Հարությունյան
          Հայաստանի իշխանությունները Իրանի հետ երբեք չեն քննարկել գազ գնելու հարցը: Այդ մասին այսօր հայտարարեց Հայաստանում Իրանի դեսպան Մուհամմադ Ռեիսին: Նա պարզաբանեց, որ խոսքը ոչ թե գազ՝ էլեկտրաէներգիայի դիմաց գործարքի մասին է, այլ Հայաստանի սպառողների համար գազ գնելու: Սարգիս Հարությունյան

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          • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

            Originally posted by TomServo View Post
            Here is a Russian political analyst's (a pro-Putin one at that) view of how the Karabagh conflict would be settled with Armenia in the Eurasian Union. Does it differ markedly from the West?

            Can Eurasian integration of Yerevan help in settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem?

            I think that the accession of Armenia, in particular, will help to advance the search for a constructive solution to the Karabakh issue, which I can see only provided that all refugees can return to Nagorno-Karabakh, to Azerbaijan. By the way, I recall that at least 400,000 Azerbaijanis also fled Armenia. At least, the return of Azerbaijanis to Nagorno-Karabakh and then a referendum, perhaps on the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, which will consist of at least two peoples. There are, however, also Russians - three peoples will be its foundation. The formation of a Caucasian "Switzerland," I do not see why not. When France and Germany fought against each other on the territory of Switzerland, French-speaking Swiss, German-speaking Swiss and Italian-speaking Swiss established mechanisms of democratic governance. The structure of Nagorno-Karabakh is also Canton-like. There were regions dominated by the Azerbaijanis, there were regions dominated by the Armenians. Without the return of all the people who would like to go back there, we cannot talk about any recognition of Nagorno-Karabakh or discussions of this issue, in my opinion. However, postponing it, undoubtedly increases the risk of military conflict.


            http://valdaiclub.com/near_abroad/65220.html
            By not acknowledging the the fraudulently named azerbaboonies are turk invaders that did murder their way into ALL those areas the person (politicle hack) that wrote the above is ligetimizing the illigitimate.
            Slick, but worthless. Just another con that picks and chooses what dates in history to mention & which to ignore.
            Artashes

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            • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

              So now Putinist Russians are also political hacks like their Western counterparts. Good to know.

              His wife is of Armenian descent, by the way.

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              • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                Իրանական գազը Հայաստանին կարող է ավելի էժան էլ վաճառվել, քան ռուսականը. քննարկման խնդիր է
                06/12/13

                tert.am - Հայաստանում Իրանի Իսլամական Հանրապետության դեսպան Մուհամադ Ռաիսին այսօր կայացած մամուլի ասուլիսին հայտարարեց, որ Իրանից Հայաստան կանխիկով գազ մատակարարելու մասին դեռ խոսք չկա, իսկ եթե լինի, ապա գինը կախված կլինի պայմանավորվածությունից: Նրա խոսքով՝ դեռ պարզ չէ, որ իրանական գազն ավելի թանկ գնով կվաճառվի Հայաստանին, քան ռուսականը։
                "Մենք Հայաստանի հետ ունենք շատ լավ հարաբերություններ, մի քանի տարի է` գործում է "Գազ` էլեկտրաէներգիայի դիմաց" պայմանագիրը: Իրանի էներգետիկայի նախկին նախարարը Հայաստանի էներգետիկայի նախարարին ասել է, որ տարիներ առաջ ձեռք բերած համաձայնությանը մենք հավատարիմ ենք, թեև գների փոփոխություն է եղել, բայց Իրանը հավատարիմ է իր պայմանավորվածությունը",- ասաց դեսպանը:
                Հարցին, թե, այնուամենայնիվ, եթե Իրանը Հայաստանին գազ մատակարարի գումարով, ապա որքա՞ն կարժենա այդ գազը, նա պատասխանեց, որ օրինակ՝ Թուրքիային և այլ երկրներին Իրանը գազը վաճառում է գործող միջազգային գներով, սակայն որոշ բարեկամ երկրների համար հնարավոր է զեղչեր լինեն:
                "Դեռ պարզ չէ, որ այդ գինն ավելի թանկ կլինի Ռուսաստանի գազից: Պետք է նստել և քննարկել",- ասաց նա՝ հավելելով, որ եթե իրենք ամբողջությամբ կարողանան բավարարել Հայաստանի գազի սպառումը, անհրաժեշտ կլինի նոր ենթակառուցվածքներ ստեղծել:

                Իսկ "ՀայՌուսգազարդի" Հայաստանի մասնաբաժինը վաճառելու մասին դեսպանը նշեց, որ Հայաստանն անկախ երկիր է, ինքն է որոշում, թե իր գազամուղն ում վաճառի:

                Անդրադառնալով Մաքսային միությանը Իրանի դիրքորոշմանը՝ դեսպանն ասաց, որ դեռևս ամբողջովին ներկայացված չէ, թե դա իրենից ինչ է ներկայացնում Մաքսային միությունը, և երբ իրենք դրա մասին տեղեկություններ ունենան, կուսումնասիրեն այն:

                Ինչ վերաբերում է ՄՄ-ին անդամակցելուց հետո հայ-իրանական հարաբերություններին, նա ընդգծեց. "Մենք լավ հարաբերություններ ունենք Ռուսաստանի հետ, կրկնակի երախտապարտ ենք ՀՀ կառավարությանը: Իրանը, հաշվի առնելով սերտ հարաբերությունները, որ ունի Հայաստանի հետ, մշտապես ցանկանում է, որ Հայաստանը առաջընթաց ունենա, Հայաստանի կայունությունն ու անվտանգությունը նաև Իրանի անվտանգությունն է, Իրանը Հայաստանի և Ռուսաստանի միջև սեպ խրելու կարիք չունի":

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                • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                  Originally posted by TomServo View Post
                  So now Putinist Russians are also political hacks like their Western counterparts. Good to know.

                  His wife is of Armenian descent, by the way.
                  Originally posted by Artashes View Post
                  By not acknowledging the the fraudulently named azerbaboonies are turk invaders that did murder their way into ALL those areas the person (politicle hack) that wrote the above is ligetimizing the illigitimate.
                  Slick, but worthless. Just another con that picks and chooses what dates in history to mention & which to ignore.
                  Artashes
                  Originally posted by TomServo View Post
                  Here is a Russian political analyst's (a pro-Putin one at that) view of how the Karabagh conflict would be settled with Armenia in the Eurasian Union. Does it differ markedly from the West?

                  Can Eurasian integration of Yerevan help in settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem?

                  I think that the accession of Armenia, in particular, will help to advance the search for a constructive solution to the Karabakh issue, which I can see only provided that all refugees can return to Nagorno-Karabakh, to Azerbaijan. By the way, I recall that at least 400,000 Azerbaijanis also fled Armenia. At least, the return of Azerbaijanis to Nagorno-Karabakh and then a referendum, perhaps on the independence of Nagorno-Karabakh, which will consist of at least two peoples. There are, however, also Russians - three peoples will be its foundation. The formation of a Caucasian "Switzerland," I do not see why not. When France and Germany fought against each other on the territory of Switzerland, French-speaking Swiss, German-speaking Swiss and Italian-speaking Swiss established mechanisms of democratic governance. The structure of Nagorno-Karabakh is also Canton-like. There were regions dominated by the Azerbaijanis, there were regions dominated by the Armenians. Without the return of all the people who would like to go back there, we cannot talk about any recognition of Nagorno-Karabakh or discussions of this issue, in my opinion. However, postponing it, undoubtedly increases the risk of military conflict.


                  http://valdaiclub.com/near_abroad/65220.html
                  Dodi gago is of Armenian decent also. I think it's fare to say Putins wife doesn't make any decisions in the Russian govt.
                  The 400,000 turks that are fraudulently called azerbaboonies that are mentioned as coming from Armenia is ludicrous .
                  This is obviously the work of a politicle hack.
                  I'm glad you found it good to know. Actually I ain't buying that either.
                  Artashes
                  Last edited by Artashes; 12-06-2013, 02:01 AM. Reason: Thought I needed to point out the obvious

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                  • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                    Turks don't come from Armenia. Incredible someone or anyone has to point out the obvious.
                    Artashes

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                    • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                      Given that Turk and Azeri blockade and other damaging activities are intended to create a disastrous economic situation in Armenia and as a result; emigration, civil unrest, revolution etc.
                      And taking into account that Russia bought/occupied all our major economy sectors, banned association with EU, the gas deal with Iran, creates obstacles on Vorotan hydro station sales to USA and as opposed to Iran doesn't support Iran-Armenia railway construction … etc.

                      One even may conclude that Russia using its dominant economic position in Armenia is doing all the rest the Turkish coalition can’t do for further deteriorating Armenia's economic situation.

                      After the total economic collapse probably Russia will be satisfied with a small part of Armenia to locate its military bases and the rest (as they probably planned with their partners; Turkey and Azeri) will go to ….
                      Last edited by gegev; 12-06-2013, 04:16 AM.

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