Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Behind every great man stands a strong woman. Women have alot of potentials and I don’t see anybody here cutting down women, or gays for that matter, as long as it doesn’t affect our family values or they don’t attack our integrity and self respect they can go on about their lives without influencing the young.

That's exactly the point... people can do whatever they wish but when they step on Armenian soil, they should live by Armenian values. A country can't have people from other countries running the show, which is what these special interest groups try to do.

[Eddo211]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

I think the problem that some don’t understand is that man and woman are just too different to be treated the same way. Emotionally we are a world apart. We are like two opposite poles of a magnet. We are not the same but we can’t exist without the other. Gays have no polarity, they have been demagnetized.

Behind every great man stands a strong woman. Women have alot of potentials and I don’t see anybody here cutting down women, or gays for that matter, as long as it doesn’t affect our family values or they don’t attack our integrity and self respect they can go on about their lives without influencing the young. Most Armenian women that I know will have no respect if men acted the way some of you describe. That is so unnatural not only because we are Armenians with strong traditions and of our learned good values but also we are genetically designed. Don’t mess with Mother Nature. Sorry but I am a simple guy and I believe in God and this is not what he had in mind.

Pedro buddy, didn’t Freud experiment with all types of mind altering drugs (PCP) to enhance his understanding of human mind?

[Federate]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

The author of that article is actually not a lesbian. She is married and has three kids.

Let's keep it cool guys, there's an interesting debate here and it shouldn't be ruined by using labels and unecessary adjectives against whoever.

[levon]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

I agree with her I said, but as I explained further there's no need for coming with her Western 'progressist' crap to our country.

I see, I just wanted to make a point of the fact that she made some statements as facts (without proof), when in fact these statements are completely wrong.

For example: Meanwhile, young women are having sex, secretly and dangerously. But nobody is talking about it openly

How can she know this, when nobody's talking about it? In fact, there is a small percentage of females in Armenia that wh0re around, but that percentage has always existed, and not only in Armenia, but in pretty much any conservative society.

.we should impose the same rules for men and women...how is it possible than a man can cheat and be allright, but a women cheating is seen as 'amot e'?

There are various reasons why in most traditional societies adultery for men has been treated with less severity than adultery for women. One of the reasons is that a man usually slaved his whole life to support his family, and he was always expected to do so, and if a woman cheated on him, he could work his whole life to raise someone else's kids. However, a man being with another man's wife was punished as severely as a married woman committing adultery, as he was basically stealing from the woman's husband. By stealing, I mean stealing the husband's whole livelihood, his children.
I believe I touched on this some in one of my older posts in this thread.

That's what I was saying, these people comes to our country trying to impose their values over ours. They can't understand or they simply can't tolerate that a society is different from that one they came from...specially from Western society, they always do the same and it sicks me. We don't go to Western countries like the US or France trying to tell them how they should behave. I prefer my rather conservative society keeping its values than an open, all-allowed bunch of people doing as they please...I have much experience in what happens when people are given too much freedom and openness they don't know how to control, and for no reason I want that for my homeland, for both men and women.

If we want our society to stop being hypocrite and act accordingly to our traditions apply rules and limits by imposing morality, values and self-respect. There's no need for anything else than dignity and morals.

I completely agree with you.

[ashot24]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Before you agree with every point posted by some stupid wh0re, make sure the statements she makes are not based on hot air. She has claimed some things that are completely wrong, and hasn't provided the slightest proof of her claims.
She has merely used just about every possible feminist propaganda statement, and included them in her article. Please, do check on her facts before agreeing with her. Blind ignorance is what will lead Armenia down the wrong path.

Before any issues pertaining to the half of the population can get looked at, we need to take care of things that affect everyone equally. The worst thing we can do is to succumb to the whims of some stupid self-loathing wh0re, who feels guilty about never being as good as real Armenian women, so she feels the need to discredit and put down every decent Armenian woman in order to feel good about her choices.

Just notice how many times she uses her opinions and actions as the holy grail of how a woman should think and act. If testicle-less idiots hadn't catered to her every whim in order to get some poossy, she wouldn't feel as if she's all that a woman can be, and wouldn't take it as a personal insult when some people chose to live with values vastly different from hers.

I agree with her I said, but as I explained further there's no need for coming with her Western 'progressist' crap to our country. What I am saying is that she speaks the reality of the problem, but is we want a good change...we should impose the same rules for men and women...how is it possible than a man can cheat and be allright, but a women cheating is seen as 'amot e'? My idea is simple, we all know cheating is one of the lowests sins, then apply that and make understand both men and women that if any of them does that...they deserve to be labeled 'amot e'.

I bet this wh0re never stopped to ask why traditional values are so important in Armenia. I bet this wh0re has no idea why women are so valued in Armenian society? She doesn't know that being a female doesn't mean being a woman. A woman knows when to abandon her plight for personal satisfaction and do something for the benefit of her family and her country. Similarly, being a male doesn't mean being a man. A man knows when to abandon his self, and dedicate himself to his family and his country. If our beloved Armenian traditional values didn't exist, we wouldn't be Armenian right now.

So HOW can this fukin wh0re just come out and suggest that OUR VALUES, are WRONG? Who the fuk does she think she is? Just because she's educated in the west she thinks she's all that? FUK the west. She's just a fukin useless wh0re that has embarked on a campaign to aid our enemies so that Armenia would be no more.

Men and women of her ideals should stay the fuk away from Armenia. They should change their last name, so as NO ONE will ever get the hint that they are Armenian. They are a disgrace to our long history, and they want nothing more than our demise.

That's what I was saying, these people comes to our country trying to impose their values over ours. They can't understand or they simply can't tolerate that a society is different from that one they came from...specially from Western society, they always do the same and it sicks me. We don't go to Western countries like the US or France trying to tell them how they should behave. I prefer my rather conservative society keeping its values than an open, all-allowed bunch of people doing as they please...I have much experience in what happens when people are given too much freedom and openness they don't know how to control, and for no reason I want that for my homeland, for both men and women.

If we want our society to stop being hypocrite and act accordingly to our traditions apply rules and limits by imposing morality, values and self-respect. There's no need for anything else than dignity and morals.

[levon]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

She is right at every single point.

Before you agree with every point posted by some stupid wh0re, make sure the statements she makes are not based on hot air. She has claimed some things that are completely wrong, and hasn't provided the slightest proof of her claims.
She has merely used just about every possible feminist propaganda statement, and included them in her article. Please, do check on her facts before agreeing with her. Blind ignorance is what will lead Armenia down the wrong path.

Before any issues pertaining to the half of the population can get looked at, we need to take care of things that affect everyone equally. The worst thing we can do is to succumb to the whims of some stupid self-loathing wh0re, who feels guilty about never being as good as real Armenian women, so she feels the need to discredit and put down every decent Armenian woman in order to feel good about her choices.

Just notice how many times she uses her opinions and actions as the holy grail of how a woman should think and act. If testicle-less idiots hadn't catered to her every whim in order to get some poossy, she wouldn't feel as if she's all that a woman can be, and wouldn't take it as a personal insult when some people chose to live with values vastly different from hers.

If a wh0re wants to be a wh0re, then she can be a wh0re. It's her choice, and she's entitled to it. However, she's not a princess, and no one (country) should bend his/her back just to make sure that she feels accepted. If a wh0re doesn't like being a wh0re, she should go somewhere where wh0res are celebrated, such as the US, or Canada, or any other wh0risized western country.

[levon]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Well, well. Looks like we have another wh0re complaining about being called a wh0re, so she embarks on a crusade to force society to accept her as "normal" in order not to feel like a wh0re. Let's see, first of all, Mrs. Aharonian, should realize that nobody gives a fuk what she does, or how she feels. The world doesn't revolve around her stinky vagin, so nobody gives a fuk if she's a wh0re or not. If she wants to wh0re around, let her be, but it gives her no right to try to turn other women into wh0res as well, so she doesn't feel like a wh0re in Armenia.

If she wants to spread her western wh0rish values, she should take her HIV infested vagin, and her sourceless propaganda and take it back to Canada, where I'm sure, there are many men willing to lower their standards completely and merry a wh0re.

Notice, that in her article she followed the standard propaganda technique, of claiming things without providing any references. If a westernized loser reads her article, he/she would be eager to follow in her logic, as after all, in the west no guy is expected to have balls, and brown-nosing wh0res is the standard practice.

I have an awesome suggestion for this wh0re. Let her take her crap out of Armenia, as sooner or later she will probably be met with bad luck, and as always, nobody will give a crap about what a dirty stinkin wh0re does, or what happened to her.

Sexuality is a private matter. What a husband and wife do together is not up for public discussion, nor is there any reasons to have workshops to teach women how to enjoy themselves. Just because some wh0re likes certain behaviors, where does she suddenly get the idea that her way is the right way?
I don't get it, since when did people start listening to what a wh0re is whining about? Who gives a sh1t. The last thing Armenia wants is for young men and women to embark on a senseless crusade of trying seeking pleasure, and avoiding responsibilities towards their country.

I bet this wh0re never stopped to ask why traditional values are so important in Armenia. I bet this wh0re has no idea why women are so valued in Armenian society? She doesn't know that being a female doesn't mean being a woman. A woman knows when to abandon her plight for personal satisfaction and do something for the benefit of her family and her country. Similarly, being a male doesn't mean being a man. A man knows when to abandon his self, and dedicate himself to his family and his country. If our beloved Armenian traditional values didn't exist, we wouldn't be Armenian right now.

So HOW can this fukin wh0re just come out and suggest that OUR VALUES, are WRONG? Who the fuk does she think she is? Just because she's educated in the west she thinks she's all that? FUK the west. She's just a fukin useless wh0re that has embarked on a campaign to aid our enemies so that Armenia would be no more.

Men and women of her ideals should stay the fuk away from Armenia. They should change their last name, so as NO ONE will ever get the hint that they are Armenian. They are a disgrace to our long history, and they want nothing more than our demise.

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

The USA has increased its population through migration. Hayastan has decreased in population because of all the immigrants taking the first boat to California or having to work in Russia or Europe. Some families start in Hayastan but the country loses them to the bigger players. Capitalism has made many Chinese people wealthy and brought others in the world to middle class level, how is it that it brought disease and poverty to the USA where there are endless opportunities to work?

Capitolism creates inequality which means there are going to be poor people who cannot afford medical treatment, food.... Capitolism in China is very much controlled by the government it is not the same as it is here. It is harder to fire a worker in China then it is here in the USA.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Before you start talking it would be good to do some thinking first. The USA has increased its population dramaticaly while the population in Hayastan has decreased in the same manner. Poverty and disease are the products of capitolism not feminism. Understanding things for what they are is always better then "o its shamefull so lets not talk about it". People are very capable of adapting thus i am sure they would last longer then two generations. I dont support feminists nor anyone else who preaches hate but not talking about real issues is just dumb and not all feminists are out to kill all the men.

The USA has increased its population through migration. Hayastan has decreased in population because of all the immigrants taking the first boat to California or having to work in Russia or Europe. Some families start in Hayastan but the country loses them to the bigger players. Capitalism has made many Chinese people wealthy and brought others in the world to middle class level, how is it that it brought disease and poverty to the USA where there are endless opportunities to work?

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

That's right folks, only the upper echelon of society can teach their kids things like "shame" and proper etiquette. The feminists are in Armenia to make sure Armenia crumbles to the ground in poverty and disease. After all, the beacons of feminism being the United Kingdom and U.S.A have the highest rates of teen pregnancy and disease which is why they have to constantly migrate other cultures into the country for work. They wouldn't last two generations in a row without immigration.

Before you start talking it would be good to do some thinking first. The USA has increased its population dramaticaly while the population in Hayastan has decreased in the same manner. Poverty and disease are the products of capitolism not feminism. Understanding things for what they are is always better then "o its shamefull so lets not talk about it". People are very capable of adapting thus i am sure they would last longer then two generations. I dont support feminists nor anyone else who preaches hate but not talking about real issues is just dumb and not all feminists are out to kill all the men.