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  • Pedro Xaramillo
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    Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

    Originally posted by levon View Post
    Sorry to pludge your gravy train, but I'm merely rephrasing what has been said by several philosophers throughout history.

    As I am not god and all knowing, I can only assume that there are people more intelligent than I; however, having intelligence is not the same as having the intellectual capacity to appreciate what respect is. It's a male concept created to be applied towards men. For men it's universal, for women its local. Please don't copy parts of my posts and take them out of context.
    Actually, society's view of women has always changed, read carefully, some even thought women possesed higher intellect, and so far many a time this has been proven correct, there have been amazing female rulers, Hapshetsut, Catherine the Great, Nefertiti, how come these women ruled so well if women are these useless idiots.

    Why this hatred of the female gender from people, surely as men we should stand in astonishment of beautiful, intelligent women, particularly if they are wise and able as well, it should add to our attractions. I don't want to spend my life with a woman that barely has a brain, sex is one thing, but I want someone who can rationally think and tell me when I am being irrational as well, I want someone with a logical working mind, otherwise you just marry a fuktoy and a maid.

    If a woman excels at being a doctor, an actress or a worker, why should she be held back, because of false beliefs through cultural hypnosis?

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  • KanadaHye
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Nope i know for a fact we havent caus neither you nor i were around in 1952
    I meant the Queen of England... I know the USA isn't part of her majesty's umbrella but the UK and the US are like siamese twins.

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  • Haykakan
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    Nope i know for a fact we havent caus neither you nor i were around in 1952

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  • KanadaHye
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    Uhm... haven't we been living under a matriarchy since like 1952?

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  • Haykakan
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    Originally posted by levon View Post
    Again, you're resorting to personal attacks. If you're going to argue with me please refrain from personal attacks, it's not a healthy communication method.

    The existence of few women on par with men does not mean all women can meet the criteria. Social customs have been established for a reason. Before civilization there were no male and female values. There is a reason why things progressed the way they did. If men and women were truly equal then there would have been at least a few civilizations where women held more power than men.


    And I'm assuming that you consider yourself on another intellectual level compared to me since you have so proudly proclaimed that it takes intellect to distinguish smart from dumb, and if I get the drift, you are implying that my ideas are dumb, therefore yours are smart.
    Great way to start and end a discussion.
    I guess you didnt know so i will inform you. There have been civilizations based on matriarchy instead of patriarchy. There have been civilizations where women had more power. I am implying some of your ideas are dumb but that doesnt make me smart nor dumb. Men and women obviously are not truely equal, we have slight differences due to upbringing and a little due to genetics but non of this renders women incapable of thinking and doing things men do some do them even better. I take offence with you because you imply women are incapable, you state only a few women can actually do usefull things besides their traditional womenly duties. I know this not to be true and i can give lots of examples. I am mad at you and the other sexists here because of the sahmanapagutyun-closed midedness you display twords the subject despite living in a world full of proof that women can indeed compete with men on almost all levels given the opportunity. I will keep attacking your and other peoples ideas when they are based on dim witted ignorence which is on full display today. Chances are you wouldnt be here if foreighners were as racist as some of you are and shame on the women in this forum for standing by and doing nothing while being degraded into nothingness.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Come on guys, let's not make this a man vs. woman thing, we know that both are very capable of learning anything and accomplishing things when they put their minds to it. We (Armenians) also want the best for both our sons and daughters. The topic is about how Armenian women can be an asset in building a strong foundation that will help the country grow and prosper. Let's leave the western corruption out of this and build our own little utopia. So far the only female voice in the thread has been Siggie, I encourage any others to speak their mind since it is our future that we're discussing.

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  • levon
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    Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

    Again, you're resorting to personal attacks. If you're going to argue with me please refrain from personal attacks, it's not a healthy communication method.

    The existence of few women on par with men does not mean all women can meet the criteria. Social customs have been established for a reason. Before civilization there were no male and female values. There is a reason why things progressed the way they did. If men and women were truly equal then there would have been at least a few civilizations where women held more power than men.


    And I'm assuming that you consider yourself on another intellectual level compared to me since you have so proudly proclaimed that it takes intellect to distinguish smart from dumb, and if I get the drift, you are implying that my ideas are dumb, therefore yours are smart.
    Great way to start and end a discussion.
    Last edited by levon; 02-05-2010, 05:36 PM.

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  • Haykakan
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    I didnt take anything out of context. Now your saying women lack intellectual capacity. Just let me know when you run out of feet to put in your mouth. Being a philosopher doesnt mean anything, plenty philosophers have said both smart and dumb things but it takes intellect to distinguish the two.

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  • levon
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    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Its funny that you admit women can be smarter then you but you still insist that their place is in a limited setting. Here is another one of your brillient assesments "See, the idea of respect is something invented by man, and thus man himself understands it much better than a woman. To a woman respect is something that revolves around her and her group of women. Not universal, but completely local to her surroundings. You can't use the same criteria for respect as hers are completely different from yours, and each woman will have different criteria" Here you imply women are incapable of comprehending respect the way men do which is the "right way" according to you. You burry yourself, there is no need for me or others to do it.
    Sorry to pludge your gravy train, but I'm merely rephrasing what has been said by several philosophers throughout history.

    As I am not god and all knowing, I can only assume that there are people more intelligent than I; however, having intelligence is not the same as having the intellectual capacity to appreciate what respect is. It's a male concept created to be applied towards men. For men it's universal, for women its local. Please don't copy parts of my posts and take them out of context.

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  • Haykakan
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    Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

    Its funny that you admit women can be smarter then you but you still insist that their place is in a limited setting. Here is another one of your brillient assesments "See, the idea of respect is something invented by man, and thus man himself understands it much better than a woman. To a woman respect is something that revolves around her and her group of women. Not universal, but completely local to her surroundings. You can't use the same criteria for respect as hers are completely different from yours, and each woman will have different criteria" Here you imply women are incapable of comprehending respect the way men do which is the "right way" according to you. You burry yourself, there is no need for me or others to do it.

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