Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Kanada you kinda remind me of rodney king. He got a million bucks but it didnt help he is still broke. Here you came up with a good idea (When another civilization outsmarts your dumbass, you fail-time to make changes) Then you used this rational to assume that a war between men and women is the cause of a civilizations collapse. You know women have much more freedom in the xxxish society then our own thus using your logic they showl implode but thats not what is happening is it. It is very amusing seeing you take a idea and run with it in the exact opposit direction. Reminds me of a play where a football player recovers a fumble and runs it in the wrong direction wondering the whole time why are the fans behaving so strange.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Thats funny caus i guess your implying that our civilization has succeeded. Like define success and failure of a civilization. Or make another funny joke-whichever is fine with me.

When another civilization outsmarts you, you fail. The J3ws have won by just simply creating a war between man and woman in every culture whereas before we worked together to get things done. When you have to work 10-12 hours a day just to be able to afford some xxxxty processed food with no nutritional value, drive some inefficient, money sucking car (which just looks pretty) and slave your whole life to have a roof over your head.... your culture has failed. It's time to wave the white flag or makes some changes.

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Yeah, and now you know why those civilizations failed. We're at that threshold now. How does it feel?

Thats funny caus i guess your implying that our civilization has succeeded. Like define success and failure of a civilization. Or make another funny joke-whichever is fine with me.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

By being conquered by Anglo Saxons and Judeo-Christian religion...wait I think I might see a point there

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

No you are basing your opinion on what is defined to you by Industrial and Judeo Christian society, before that, the role of women differed, particularly in Armenia and amongst early Aryans, the same applies to modern day Mexicans and original Nahuatls, you assume all civilizations functioned the same

Yeah, and now you know why those civilizations failed. We're at that threshold now. How does it feel?

[Pedro Xaramillo]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

It takes brains to make a good wife and mother. You guys speak as though women in Armenia are uneducated, oppressed weaklings who are not allowed to do anything. How wrong you are. Stupid women don't make good wives, and they make terrible mothers.

Men lead, women follow and lean on men. That's what they want no matter how much you try to push them forward. Given the opportunity almost all women would chose to be a wife and mother (so long as her husband is well-endowed with money). Why else do you think early feminists emphasized that women should not be able to chose between homemaking and working as too many women will chose the former. Women want opportunities without the burdens, the rights without the responsibilities, they want privilege and equality.

Here is a little metaphor your all of you champions of the female cause.

He has a wife and he seems happy. Sometimes she complains that she hasn't enough to do at home, after all, they have yet to have kids, and frozen dinners don't take long to cook. One day he decides to surprise her and starts to give her 200$ in weekly spending money so she can go and do whatever she wants. She is happy. She thanks him every time for the first few months, then after that she stays quite. One day she decides to get a job. He thinks its a great idea, as it would benefit the family finances and take some of the stress from his shoulders. The second she starts working she demands that he do half the housework because working AND homemaking is too much for her, and he has to help her as well. He is rational, thinks about it and decides it's very fair. Why shouldn't he help out with housework, after all she'll be contributing to the family income so it's the right thing to do.
She gets a job, but to his surprise starts spending on herself. After all, the way she sees it, she worked for it, so it's her money. He's still doing half the housework, but the stress of money-stretching is still there. After a few months he gets frustrated with her and asks her to contribute some of her earnings into the family savings account.
She gets angry and rants "Why, it's my money, why should I share it with you, you have a job, you get money as well. Do you know how hard I have to work for my money. I want to treat myself."
He gets frustrated, but says nothing. Instead, he decides to stop giving her money weekly, as she now has a job.
The second he stops, she comes at him concerned and asks "Honey, is everything OK with our finances, I noticed you didn't give me my $200."
He says "Everything's fine, I just decides that since you just have a job and your own money, the $200 a month would do better in a savings account instead."
She grunts, complains, but says nothing more. A few weeks go by and she starts to miss the money she used to get. It just doesn't feel as good when she has to spend more of the money that SHE had earned.
So goes to him and out of nowhere explodes on her husband "You don't appreciate me enough, after all I do for you, you don't even want to treat me. Is that how much you care about me?"
Her husband responds "But I pay the mortgage, the car loan. I pay for our food, and all other costs associated with living. Isn't that enough?"
She responds "No, you're supposed to do that anyway, you're a man. I'm your wife, you're supposed to treat me sometimes?" It's a losing battle.


The moral of the story is rights come AFTER responsibilities. One must abandon all privilege to ask for rights, and rights cannot be granted until responsibilities associated with those rights are guaranteed to be performed.

If you truly want equality, then do everyone a favor and ask and convince every woman to give up the privileges traditional afforded to women. See how many of them say yes to that. Then, and only then start speaking about rights, as when one is not accustomed to privilege, one can start accepting responsibilities and asking for rights.

No you are basing your opinion on what is defined to you by Industrial and Judeo Christian society, before that, the role of women differed, particularly in Armenia and amongst early Aryans, the same applies to modern day Mexicans and original Nahuatls, you assume all civilizations functioned the same

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Ok..... we get it now! You’re the smartest, and you’re intellectually the Britannica encyclopedia, no one can challenge you, even can come close to you in knowing things, you’re the wisdom itself. You’re the beginning and the end, you’re the Alfa and the Omega, Can you get down off your high horse now?

Nah i just use my brain instead of recycling bullkaka.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

This is what sexism leads to. Let others lead the way for hetamnatsutiun, we can do things better than this.

IN TURKEY, GIRL BURIED ALIVE FOR TALKING TO BOYS

press tv
Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:22:18 GMT

The hole where the girl was buried alive

The body of a 16-year-old Turkish girl has been discovered after
being buried alive by relatives in an "honor" killing carried out as
punishment for talking to boys.

Police discovered the body after receiving an anonymous tip.

The police was told that the girl was killed after a family council
meeting, and had been buried under a chicken pen.

Police say that the girl had complained two months earlier that her
grandfather beat her for talking to boys.

The girl was identified by her initials, and was said to have large
amounts of soil in her stomach and lungs.

"The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings,
the girl - who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics
or poison in her blood - was alive and fully conscious when she was
buried," an unnamed expert said, Huffington Post reported.

Police have arrested her mother, father and grandfather who had
reported her as missing.

Official figures indicate that more than 200 honor killings take
place in Turkey each year.

We can point to the thousands of shocking crimes that are committed in the U.S. too. Things like boyfriends taking baseball bats to their pregnant teenage ex girlfriends, gang rapes outside of school functions. The media can twist the story any which way it wants. When it happens in America, all the newscasters seem shocked and "oh, that's wrong, blah, blah, blah" but everyone knows why it happens, they just turn the other way and let the "authorities" handle it. You know as well as I do, those aren't Armenian values. Most Armenian fathers and grandparents love their offspring, in fact we have a tendency to spoil the daughters. At least in and around the communities that I've been exposed to.

[Yedtarts]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

This is what people say when they are intelectually bankrupt and have been badly beaten in a argument.

Ok..... we get it now! You’re the smartest, and you’re intellectually the Britannica encyclopedia, no one can challenge you, even can come close to you in knowing things, you’re the wisdom itself. You’re the beginning and the end, you’re the Alfa and the Omega, Can you get down off your high horse now?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenian women: should play a bigger role in our economy, politics and military.

Actually, nobody really won the argument. The only specific roles that were mentioned in this thread was by a woman