Iranian-Armenian relations

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

When it comes to intermarriage Armenians were much more likely to marry Georgians than any other groups around them because of the common religion.

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I'd think Georgians were more likely to intermarry with the Turks than Armenians.

= Mos is Turkish.

I'm helping him to discover his roots.

[Persopolis]

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So this is how you prove it? By posting image of a Persian girl and a girl that is not Armenian. (KIM KARDASHIAN IS NOT ARMENIAN!!). When it comes to intermarriage Armenians were much more likely to marry Georgians than any other groups around them because of the common religion.

1. DNA predates religion (you need to understand that - people didn't start making babies AFTER the bible was written);

2. Ossetians are Iranians who are Christians - they overlap Georgian and Russian territory:
Who are the Ossetians?

By: Dr Oric Basirov 2001.

"As late as the closing decades of the 4th century B.C., the Iranian peoples were still the largest and the most widespread group within the great Indo-European family.... Fortunately for us, the Huns could not push all the Alans out of their homeland; their descendants, known as Ossets, are the only Iranians who still live in Europe; they call their country "Iron", which is a variation of Alan, Iran, as well as Eran. Eran [Arran] was the name of the Iranian Transcaucasia before it was lost to the Russians in the 19th century and subsequently renamed Azarbaijan.

Ossets are mostly Christian, speaking Ossetic, or as they themselves call it "Ironig", or "Ironski", which is classified as an Eastern Iranian language. Ossetic maintains on the one hand, some remarkable features of the Gathic Avestan, and possesses on the other, a number of words, such as, thau (tauen, to thaw, as in snow) and gau (region, district) which are remarkably similar to their modern Germanic equivalents.

This modern Iranian nation, still provides a physical link between the Indo-Europeans of the East, and those of the West, that is, most people of Europe; such a romantic link, it will be remembered, had already been established thousands of years ago by their blond and blue-eyed ancestors."

http://ossetians.com/eng/news.php?newsid=545

3. The minute Northern-Armenians disassociate from their Persian connection, and if they convince Persians that they are unrelated, they've completely lost the historical arguments as to the legitimacy of not only their territorial claims to Artsakh, but to most of Armenia because they will lose 99% of the maps and artifacts to press their land claims -- Not only that, but you then you will 80 million Iranians disassociating from Armenia by saying, 'IF ARMENIANS ARE NOT CONNECTED TO IRAN BY BLOOD, THEY'RE PERSONA NON GRATA in these Aryan lands.' You need to understand this.



* "The Greek historian Xenophon mentioned that the Armenian leader allied himself with Cyrus, the king of the Medes (an Iranian tribe). In the famous cuneiform script of Darius I, son to Hystaspes (Vishtaseb), dated 521 B.C. and found at Bisutun in present-day Iran, it is written: and I conquered Pontos and Armenia. Thus, in 521 B.C. Armenia is presented to us for the first time in modern history." Note: If you go to the City of Van (in what is now Turkey) and you go to the walled city where the old Armenian Churches are, you will find an inscription of King Xerxes from 485-465 B.C.

* Vologaeses IV of Parthia (Iran) = Father of Khosrov I of Armenia.

* "The Arsacid dynasty, ruled Persia for more than 400 years and upon whom Armenia was dependent on because of several close ties (among others their common political goal of fighting against the Romans and the blood ties between their kings ), was dissolved and was replaced by the Sasanid dynasty as the new masters of Persia."

* "Persia during the reign of the Sasanids, especially in comparison with Europe, reached a high degree of development and experienced great success. It could efficiently strike down the savage tribes in the north who tried to destroy their ancient culture. The Sasanid court glittered with luxury and elegance and Persia (Iran) has the Sasanids to thank for the historical valuable items and j*wels that the country can boast of today. The influence of this dynasty on the Arabic world was even greater and we can say that the Caliphate in Baghdad was itself a kind of an heir to the Sasanids since much of their administrative organisation was based on that of the Sasanids."

* The Armenian alphabet, which consists of 38 characters, was created in 405 A.D. by a monk named Mesrop Mashtots; First printed documents appeared in Armenia in early 16th century.

[Mos]

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= Mos is Turkish.

I'm helping him to discover his roots.

What the hell is your problem? You just like making ridiculous statements?

The prevalence of Georgian-Armenian intermarriage is a fact, and yes it was due large part to common religion, as we were essentially a Christian island in a Muslim sea, and often worked together throughout history. Us becoming Christian, was a defining moment in our Armenian identity, defining, it united us as a people and really shaped the Armenian identity and culture that we know today.

[KanadaHye]

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What the hell is your problem? You just like making ridiculous statements?

The prevalence of Georgian-Armenian intermarriage is a fact, and yes it was due large part to common religion, as we were essentially a Christian island in a Muslim sea, and often worked together throughout history. Us becoming Christian, was a defining moment in our Armenian identity, defining, it united us as a people and really shaped the Armenian identity and culture that we know today.

And I think that more inter-ethnic marriages were for money and status than religious convictions..... if someone is going to sell out, they are going to go big or go home.

[Persopolis]

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Political analyst, Head of the Chair of Iranian Studies at the Yerevan State University, Armenia’s former ambassador to Syria David Hovhannisyan says:

"The United States wants to blockade Iran, and our very positive relations with Iran are at risk. We must never forget that all roads were blocked during the (Karabakh) war, only Iran’s road remained that was our road of life."

"In Baku, they say that Iran has ‘spoilt’ the whole effect of the blockade by Azerbaijan and Turkey against Armenia: 'During the war, Iran rendered every assistance to Armenia. And, it was through Iran that Armenia gets a considerable part of its foodstuffs and industrial goods, which makes the blockade imposed by Azerbaijan and Turkey ineffective,' " says Sofiev. The Azeri expert says that at least 20 million Iranian Azeris have no schools to study in their native language, while 250,000 Armenians in Iran have several national schools.

[Persopolis]

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ALL OF THESE VIDEOS ARE BY AN ARMENIAN FRIEND OF MIND: HE MAKES VERY GOOD VIDEOS - PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT HIS SITE: I PUT THIS UNDER IRAN-ARMENIA RELATIONS BECAUSE IT FURTHER GOES TO SHOW THAT WE ARE PROTECTING EACH OTHER.
http://www.youtube.com/user/VartanMamikonian

Further evidence "The Republic of Azerbaijan" is a fabricated country - They don't know how to make a national flag.

[Eddo211]

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ALL OF THESE VIDEOS ARE BY AN ARMENIAN FRIEND OF MIND: HE MAKES VERY GOOD VIDEOS - PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT HIS SITE: I PUT THIS UNDER IRAN-ARMENIA RELATIONS BECAUSE IT FURTHER GOES TO SHOW THAT WE ARE PROTECTING EACH OTHER.

We just got way too many enemies brother.

This is for you Persopolis, and Eyde Noroozeh shomaham mobarak bashad.

Darioush in Armenia:

[Mos]

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Can anybody comment on the factuality of this?

Bibles are burnt in Iran, while Christian world keeps silence
March 18, 2011 - 19:46 AMT 15:46 GMT
PanARMENIAN.Net - Recently, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps revealed in an Iranian settlement a great number of Bibles in Persian language, which had been burnt there.

According to one of spiritual leaders of Iran Ayatollah Vahid Khorasani, “the Christianity and all non-Muslim religions are fallen and they should be eliminated,” Asr Iran information website of Christians reported.

Unfortunately, there was no relevant reaction to the fact of Bible burning in both Iran and the Christian world.

One should not be surprised with this – the Shiite orthodoxies cannot speak against Bible burning due to a simple reason - they indeed consider Christianity to be evil and Satan’s display.

It should be noted that bishops of the Armenian Apostolic Church, specifically, the leader of Tehran diocese of the Armenian Apostolic Church, Archbishop Sepuh Sargsyan, and Catholicos of the Great House of Cilicia, His Holiness Aram I condemned the cases of Quran burning in the U.S.

Anyway, burning of books is a barbarity, but in this case one can say that the Christianity and Islam fight to the death in the 21st century.

[Mos]

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ALL OF THESE VIDEOS ARE BY AN ARMENIAN FRIEND OF MIND: HE MAKES VERY GOOD VIDEOS - PLEASE BE SURE TO VISIT HIS SITE: I PUT THIS UNDER IRAN-ARMENIA RELATIONS BECAUSE IT FURTHER GOES TO SHOW THAT WE ARE PROTECTING EACH OTHER.
http://www.youtube.com/user/VartanMamikonian

Further evidence "The Republic of Azerbaijan" is a fabricated country - They don't know how to make a national flag.

2) Funny thing about the flag, it is reported that when the blue strip ripped off, there was a big scare in the Azeri politicians and Aliyev as the thought it was a sign of Karabakh being separate from Azerbaijan.
3) Funny one moolt.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Can anybody comment on the factuality of this?

Nobody burns Bibles in Iran. Iran's Muslims are Shia. If anyone would do this (and even they would likely not), it would be Saudis (see Wahabism / Sunnis).

AN EASY WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE:

* Iran hangs spies & separatists - but Iranian law explicitly respects 4 official religions: Islam / Christianity / Zoroastrianism / Judaism.

* Saudi-Arabs don't let women drive and cut hands off / Saudis preach that Christians should be killed. Ottoman Turks are Sunnis.

You should post where you got that from - it's interesting to learn the source. It's likely from same type of group that says 'Armenian Snipers Shoot Turkish Kids.' It's basically on that same level of nonsense. Iranian people are actually known for being very educated and nice: e.g., 73% of Persians in the U.S. hold an advanced degree (Masters or higher). This is much higher than the national average.

FOLLOW-UP INFORMATION: SOMEONE POSTED THAT STORY TO PAN-ARMENIAN.COM, BUT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ANYBODY. THAT STORY DOESN'T EXIST IN ANY OTHER NEWS SOURCE I COULD FIND. (IF THAT GUY ACTUALLY DID THAT, HE WOULD LIKELY BE ARRESTED.) THERE'S NO SOURCE FOR THE STORY; NO AUTHOR FOR THE STORY; NO MEDIA-FEED FOR THE STORY. HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS.

SECOND FOLLOW-UP: AS I SUSPECTED THE STORY IS PUT UP BY BAHAIS IN ISRAEL - PFFFFFFFFFFF.

HERE'S AN EASY WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE -- IRAN WOULD 100% BAN THESE "CHRISTIAN PREACHERS"

Iranians are not dumb - they will not allow psychos import this crap into the country. But there is no issue with established Christian churches. Armenians are real Christians - not a bunch of TV psychos.