Iranian-Armenian relations

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FORMER PAN TURKIC SITE BELOW -- THE OWNER IS "NO LONGER AVAILABLE" HIS SITE IS NOW BEING PUT TO BETTER USE.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AfrasiyapTuran

Very nice

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A SIMPLE LETTER YOU SHOULD SHARE WITH IRANIANS TO ALERT THEM OF THE DANGER - THE WHOLE POINT OF THE LETTER IS TO KEEP IT SIMPLE. PLEASE FEEL WELCOME TO SHARE THE LETTER & GRAPHIC.
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Threats to Iran’s Northern Border:

The territory in the Caucasus that lies to the north of the Aras river was never called “Azerbaijan” until the year 1918. Russia exploited Iran after a war and seized this land from Iran through military means and with the assistance of a corrupt Iranian ruler at the time. The country now called Azerbaijan was previously known as Aran, and historically was a province of Iran.

Prior to the invention of the name Azerbaijan for Aran – there already existed another province in Iran also called Azerbaijan since antiquity that was named after a Persian nobleman. In other words, after 1918 two “Azerbaijans” came into existence, and the people in Aran for the first time were conditioned to refer to themselves as "Azeris" and "Azerbaijanis" though Aran had a multi-ethnic population, including Armenians, Talysh, Iranian-Azaris, Tatars, Tats, Turkmen, Lezgins, and so on.

Soviet-Russia and fascist elements from Turkey called the “Grey Wolves” conspired to create the new and fictitious Azerbaijan out of Aran so they could later employ the pretext of “reuniting” (annexing) more Iranian territory to the south by seizing the historical province of Iranian-Azerbaijan. The falsehoods of "North Azerbaijan" and "South Azerbaijan" were skillfully manipulated into books and into translations from Turkish and Russian in order to inculcate this idea into the minds of readers.

After the fall of the Soviet Union, other contemporary propagandists joined in trying to pretend that Azerbaijan is a ‘divided land’ and that it should be 'reunited' someday. Today, American propagandists have continued this farce by involving Turkey and introducing it as a model for the new Republic of Azerbaijan to follow as a means of creating tension with, and separation from, Iran for the purpose of exploiting natural resources in the Caspian Sea. These propagandists refer to the land stolen from Iran as “one nation with two states” (meaning Turkey and Aran) while continuing to abuse the name of Iranian-Azerbaijan and while subjecting many individuals to a campaign of manipulation and harm.

Currently, Iran's enemies are exploiting the existence of this misnomer by propagating false and misleading information. One of these propaganda mechanisms is Radio Liberty, which is run from Munich, and carries out its activities from a budget it receives from the U.S. Congress to injure the integrity of Iran. Armenia too has suffered under these lies as it has come directly into conflict with the counterfeit Azerbaijan and the propagandists that perpetuate its myth and history.

Pass this information onto all Iranians, and make sure Iran’s enemies understand that there will be consequences for playing games with Iran’s territorial integrity.



FORMER PAN TURKIC SITE BELOW -- THE OWNER IS "NO LONGER AVAILABLE" HIS SITE IS NOW BEING PUT TO BETTER USE.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AfrasiyapTuran

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Iran to Connect Armenia to International Waters: http://asbarez.com/95471/iran-to-con...tional-waters/
With the implementation of the agreement, Armenia’s rail network will be effectively connected to international waters via the southern Iranian port of Bandar Abbas. http://www.presstv.ir/detail/177057.html (2nd version of the story.)

(I predicted this a while back and the Nowruz Coup - I am getting good at this.)

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The Iranian-Armenian Connection Opens Doors:

Andy The “Persian-Armenian Elvis” Becomes Armenia’s Unofficial Ambassodor to Tajikistan. “Tajik” is a synonym for Persian – Tajikistan is the Eastern most Persian country that like Armenia also became an SSR. What’s amazing is that people there already know Andy and love him there. It further shows the doors that Iran-Armenia connection can open up for Armenia proper. (By the way, there are several Iranian-Armenian singers battling it out for the title of “Persian-Armenian Elvis.”)

My favorite was always Vigen (he’s passed away now): "Crazy Heart" (Deleh Divaneh).

Vigen at a Nowruz party in Tehran 1970s: Got to love the singing & the 70s clothes!

Vigen Derderian http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...60&PIpi=681754

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Iranian railways to join Armenian

The Iranian Deputy Minister of Roads and Transport, Reza Pilpaye, had a meeting with Armenian Ambassador to Iran Grigor Arakelyan. He said that the Armenian and Iranian railway networks may be united, IranNews reports.


Pilpaye said that joining an international transport corridor may be a benefit. Uniting the railways will need construction of 540 km of railtrack. 480 km needs to be built in Armenia and 60 km in Iran. A joint Iranian-Azerbaijani commission for trade-economic cooperation will consider establishment of a consortium.


Arakelyan mentioned the road from the border of Iran to Georgia. It may be extended to Armenia.


Iran and Armenia are connected by the border terminal of Nurduz. 40,000 trucks and cars cross the border annually.


Nurduz is located on the Julfa-Hodaafarin Highway. Its area is planned to reach 8 hectares. Approximately $3.5 million have been invested. Nurduz is 65 km away from Julfa, opposite Agarak.


Armenia only has an international railway connection with Georgia.

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/economy/13341.html

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Further reasons why Armenians need to understand the shared history with past Iranian Empires -- Azerbaijan is calling you frauds. If you don't understand who was in the region, when they were in the region, why they were in the region, and who they are related to, you risk presenting a narrative that looks like like it came from an Armenian gift shop, undermining your own credibility, and leaving scholars to wonder which side was more brainwashed by bolshevism. On the other hand, if your narrative is closer to the Iranian one -- which generally is agreed to have been accurately and meticulously kept as to historical details and free from Bolshevism and Pan-Turkic revisionism -- you will look more upright than the other side. Moreover, one of the keys to combatting these types of articles turns on understanding WHO the Turks are in the region (i.e., the ethnic and linguistic groups and their subdivisions), and understanding when they first appeared in the region and how they got there.
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http://news.az/articles/society/35054

All churches in modern Armenia "Albanian"
Mon 25 April 2011 10:31 GMT | 3:31 Local Time
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News.Az interviews Azerbaijani historian Bahtiyar Tuncay.
Armenians are trying their best to misappropriate monuments of Azerbaijani culture and history in an attempt to gloss over their recent migration to the Caucasus. Is there sufficient proof that monuments which the Armenians insist are theirs, were in fact were created by the architects of ancient Caucasian Albania?

For many years Armenian historians have been trying to "Armenianize" the history, culture, architectural monuments and language of Caucasian Albania. Armenians have managed to misappropriate Albanian churches and stones engraved with crosses. Albanians are ethnic Turks, since they belong to the nomadic tribes of Kipchaks. For example, in the famous Kyrgyz epos Manas, the father of the main hero is Gargar, a representative of an ethnicity that lived in the territory of Caucasian Albania.

Armenians admit that the language of Albanian historians does not resemble either ancient or modern Armenian.

The main factor in the assimilation of Albanians and Armenians, which was recorded many times in Albanian history books, was their common religion - Christianity.

Would you outline your research on this topic which has recently been published as a book?

There are manuscripts in Turkish that belong to Albanians in many European libraries and foundations. Among such countries are France, Holland, Italy, Romania, Russia, Ukraine, and Austria. Albanians have been presented as Armenians in international history studies for some time, since they had a similar alphabet, but spoke the language of Kipchak Turks. While studying this issue, I came to understand that Albanians spoke the language of the Kipchaks. All historical material shows that when Mesrop Mashtots began drawing up an alphabet for Albanian, he did it on the basis of the Gargar language.

An Azerbaijani historian, referring to researchers such as Bartold and others, points out that Gargars were Kipchaks and spoke Turkish. This fact has been reflected in my book; I haven't discovered America here, just openly cited historical sources.
So it has become clear that the Albanian language was nothing but Kipchak. I carried out a thorough study of the work by Mesrop Mahstots on the Albanian and Armenian languages and came to the conclusion that he created two alphabets with the same letters. In other words, it was one alphabet for two different languages.

Therefore, manuscripts in European archives, presented as Armenian sources, in fact, belong to Albanians. I began studying this issue and learned that the manuscripts include documents that belonged to the outstanding figures of Caucasian Albania, including philosophers, Christian theologians and so on. Azerbaijani historians Farida Mammadova and Ziya Bunyadov wrote well about these people. I pulled together all this material in one book. I also wrote briefly about Albanian grammar and included a dictionary of about 1,700 words.
What should be done to stymie Armenian disinformation? Can works such as yours be effective tools in this ideological fight?

Armenians present all Albanian authors as Armenian. In addition, it is notable that all churches in the territory of modern Armenia, as well as stone monuments that they call "khachkars", are in reality Albanian monuments, which is proven by the inscriptions on them. For example, it is written on one of the churches there that it was built by an Albanian khan, while the grave of the Albanian Catholicos can be found and is clearly identified. One of the cross stones bears a sign that Albanian Duke Kirikor erected the monument so that everyone who passed could pray there. However, the Armenians published a book and even posted it on the Internet, where they try to refute this fact.

In my book I have cited facts that prove that churches and cross stones in not only modern Azerbaijan but also western Azerbaijan, i.e. modern Armenia, are Albanian. I hope this book will strike a major blow to Armenian provocateurs in the great ideological warfare that Armenians have launched against us.

Leyla Tagiyeva
News.Az
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PLEASE SEE:

http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Geography/arran.htm

http://www.iranchamber.com/geography/articles/arran_real_azerbaijan.php

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Iran is becoming more important for us....

Russia and Armenia cooperating through Iran
By Messenger Staff
Wednesday, April 20
Trade turnover between Armenia and Russia in 2010 amounted to USD 870 mln. There are more than 1400 enterprises operating with the Russian capital inside Armenia. Both countries are focused on regional cooperation for developing small and medium size businesses. The representatives of those two countries are concerned because of the fact that there is no direct border between the two countries and they have to operate through a third country. Armenian and Russian officials are considering the option of establishing links between the two countries via Iran and the Caspian Sea.

No military Russian transit via Georgia
By Messenger Staff
Tuesday, April 26
On April 19, the Georgian parliament unanimously (84 votes) abolished an agreement signed on March 31, 2006 about the transit of military cargo and military personnel from Russia to other countries. This decision was followed by serious discussions in Russia and in Armenia in particular concerning the implications from a geopolitical point of view and how Russia will be supplying its 102nd military base in the Armenian town of Gumri. This document was signed simultaneously to the withdrawal of Russian military bases from Georgia. The Georgian parliament ratified this agreement on April 13, 2006 and it was to remain valid for 5 years. This agreement envisaged automatic continuation of its terms unless one side made a written objection 6 months prior to the expiration date. As Deputy FM of Georgia Nino Kalandadze informed the media, the above mentioned 6 month term expires in November and eventually the agreement will cease to function from this date.

Under the current circumstances when Russia is occupying 1/5 of Georgian territory, allowing Russian military transit through Georgia is not logical. Permitting this would have carried a serious risk and danger for Georgia's military and strategic security. As deputy minister Kalandadze informed, the last time Georgia allowed Russian military transit through its territory was in July 2008. One month later, Georgia was under attack. Staring from this period, Russia did not apply for transit permission and so it transpires that the Russian military base had not been supplied through Georgian territory for almost 3 years already. On the other hand some Georgian analysts suspect that, in a disguised manner, certain goods are transported through Georgia via Larsi checkpoint. Among the wikileaks documents there is information that the Georgian side expresses its concern that the military equipment sent to Armenia is exceeding the logical amount of what Armenia needs and could probably be targeted against Georgia too. In reality of course it would be rather difficult to control precisely what kind of cargo goes to the Russian base in Armenia through Georgia. It is very significant that on the eve of abolishing the agreement on April 18, Georgian Defense Minister Bacho Akhalaia was in a meeting in Yerevan with his counterpart and President Serzh Sarkisian. During these meetings possible military cooperation was discussed and of course this statement was very painfully interpreted by Azerbaijan – Georgia’s strategic partner. Some even considered that military cooperation with Armenia could mean military cooperation with Russia. With these developments in Georgia, the pressing question is how the base in Gumri would be supplied. Some Georgian analysts suggest that Russia would be supplying Armenia and its base through the Caspian Sea and Iran. However Armenian newspaper Novoe Vremya excluded this possibility as it would be badly received by western countries. Besides it is not known what preferential deals Iran would demand from Russia. They could be financial as well as political. Another possibility being discussed is the activation of Turkish – Armenian dialogue and the possible opening of the border between the two countries so that the Russian base could be supplied with goods through Turkey. Azeri military expert Mirkadirov suggests that the Georgian decision would not have been taken without US consent. So it is technically a very complicated situation. Russia has a military base in Armenia whereas it is blocked and cannot be supplied by land or other means. It could only be supplied by air but even then Russian military planes cannot use Georgian, Azeri or Turkey territories. Only Iranian airspace could be used for that and besides air transport has certain limitations concerning the size of the equipment and its weight.

Possibly getting our weapons from Iran?

Armenia, Iranian to further strengthen cultural ties
April 13, 2011 - 20:59 AMT

PanARMENIAN.Net - On April 12, Armenian Ambassador to Iran Grigor Arakelyan met with the Iranian Minister of Culture and Islamic Guidance Sayyid Muhammad Husseini.

At the meeting, the parties discussed a number of culture-related issues, including Yerevan’s participation in Tehran-hosted annual book exhibit in the capacity of 2012 World Book Capital.

The ambassador further dwelled on the Iran-hosted events dedicated to 20th anniversary of Armenia’s independence.

Mr. Husseini, in turn, noted that close bilateral relations will promote strengthening of cultural ties between the countries. He also mentioned the possibility of organizing Iranian Culture Days in Armenia in 2012, Armenian Foreign Ministry press service reported.

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Old interview, but still crucial one regarding iranian-armenian projects:

Armen Movsisyan:
Armenia rates cooperation with Iran as satisfactory
March 28, 2011
PanARMENIAN.Net - Energy security and sufficiency remain among the most important tasks for Armenia, which strengthens relations with its neighbors through diversification of its energy resources. Specifically, Armenia implements a number of ambitious joint projects with Iran. In an interview with PanARMENIAN.Net, Armenia's Minister of Energy and Natural Resources Armen Movsisyan commented on the implementation process as well as on talks for oil pipeline construction and forthcoming visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

To strengthen its energy independence, Armenia has intensified its relations with Iran. Please, comment on the joint projects under way.

Armenia and Iran are implementing a number energy projects, including construction of Meghri hydropower plant at Arax River, oil pipeline, gas pipeline as well as construction of the third power line.

Would you elaborate on the construction of Meghri hydropower plant? When the construction works be started and how much will they cost? Are there plans to build similar plants in the future?

Armenia and Iran are planning to build two high-capacity hydropower plants: in Meghri and Karachilar (Iran). Each plant is envisaged to generate 793mln kilowatt/h of electric power. Preparations for the construction in Meghri will finish this year, the project being estimated at $323mln to be invested by the Iranian Investment Company. According to the agreement, the power generated by the plant will be delivered to Iran during 15 years. Afterwards, the plant will be transferred to Armenian side. As to construction of other plants, it's hardly possible as Armenia doesn't possess sufficient water resources.

What about the power line to be built?

70% of the third Armenia-Iran high-voltage power line will be built by the end of 2011. The project is estimated at euro 100-105 million and is implemented by Sanir Iranian company. The operating power lines have a capacity of 450 megawatt. Together with the third one, the capacity will make 1200 megawatt.

Please tell about the Iran-Armenia gas pipeline. How much will the project cost and is construction of a second line possible?

Energy diversification is one of Armenia's energy security factors. That is why we consider the advisability of both the pipeline delivering Russian gas through Georgia and Iran-Armenia pipeline. In 2011, we have ensured 15% growth in power generating sector, 12% of which was exported to Iran in the framework of “gas in exchange for eclectic power” project. Moreover, Iran-Armenia gas pipeline can satisfy Armenia's needs in force majeure situation. Construction if a second pipeline is not planned.

How do matters stand with Iran-Armenia oil pipeline?

Construction of the oil pipeline is expected to be finished in 2014. It will allow Armenia to export oil products both from Iran and the Persian Gulf, a major market for petroleum products. Persian Gulf market prices significantly differ from those at Mediterranean Sea, which will enable Armenia to dramatically decrease transportation expenses. Construction of Armenia-Iran pipeline will be funded on both sides, with Armenia allocating $100mln to the project. Pipeline operation contract will be concluded for the period of 25 years. Armenia's internal need for oil products comprises 400 thousand ton a year. Relevant documents can be signed during the visit of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Armenia.

Will an oil refinery be built in Armenia? Armenia and Iran used to discuss the matter some time ago…

The idea to build an oil refinery in Armenia is alive and construction of the oil pipeline is a part of it. However, to implement such huge project a relevant infrastructure is needed, including construction of Iran-Armenia railroad, which will transport the products to foreign markets. I think this idea will be realized one day.

How do you assess cooperation with Iran? How will our country's energy security improve and what role can it have in the region?

I rate the cooperation with Iran as satisfactory. As to energy security it's hard to produce figures - 20% or 30%. Anyway, Armenia is going to become one of the leading regional countries from the viewpoint of energy security.

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A new and interesting video that came out about iran-armenia:

Good. I want to see relations continue to develop.

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US Ambassador Matthew Bryza Visited Nakhchivan
NAKHCHIVAN. April 21, 2011: The US Ambassador to Azerbaijan Matthew Bryza began a two-day visit to the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic on April 20. In Nakhchivan, the US ambassador met with Vasif Talibov, the head of the Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic.

The state of democracy and human rights in Nakhchivan were discussed during that meeting. [Area is used for drugs and people smuggling.] The US ambassador inquired into the region’s historic monuments including the ancient cemetery crosses in the Julfa region. The ambassador said that, unfortunately, he was unable to visit Julfa and observe these old burial places, [didn't have daddy's permission] but he would like to visit them during a future trip to the region. He said the monuments were very interesting and added that he had always supported the idea of protecting monuments everywhere. He told the media he had asked about the mosques in Armenia when visiting this country several times.

Ambassador Bryza went on to visit the Nakhchivan State University and discussed several joint projects with its President Isa Habibbeyli. Bryza also visited the Carpet Museum and the Momine Khatun Mausoleum.

Bryza also visited the Resource Center for Democratic Development and Support to NGOs. He has no plans to meet with the local representatives of Azerbaijan’s political parties. Bryza is visiting Nakhchivan with his wife, Zeyno Baran (Turan). [Has a Tatar wife.]

http://azerireport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2735&Itemid=53

Nakhchivan Supreme Assembly chairman meets US consultant - Vasif Talibov has met founder and Chief Executive Officer of private intelligence corporation Stratfor George Friedman.

http://news.az/articles/politics/34587

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The statistic for Iranians living in America is that about 75% hold advanced degrees (Masters / Doctorate).

This is not uncommon in the Iranian community: She is now an assistant professor at Harvard medical school.

Iranians are the most educated minority in The Netherlands. Not only that, but they hold more university degrees than the locals. The Persians are smart people.