Iranian-Armenian relations

[UrMistake]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

@ UrMistake
What you wrote is unintelligible to me - I can't respond.

Then go ahead and translate it i don't care,did you understand what i said ?il suggest you leave this forum, anti/armenian posts have limits.

What is your point with the search of old post from 2005? Do you like me post stupid 12 year old iranian posting about how ugly hes country man are?
Morons can be find in every race

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

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xxxish-Armenian couple executed secretly in Iranian prison
A xxxish-Armenian couple along with a woman and two men were secretly executed in Iran on March 14.
Adiva Mirza Soleiman Kalimi, a xxxish Iranian, and her husband, Varoujan Petrosian, an Armenian Iranian along with another woman and two men, whose identities remain unknown, were secretly executed in Evin Prison.
According to Iranian Christian news agency Mohabat News, the execution happened at the crack of dawn on March 14 iniside the Evin prison in Iran. However, details of their charges are not known.
The news agency confirmed the report by speaking to human rights activists in Iran.
The 28th divisional court of the Revolutionary Court, located inside the Evin prison, in confirming this execution refused to provide any further details about the surrender of the executed bodies of the prisoners, the report said.
The families of the victims, who had asked the authorities to return the bodies of the prisoners in order to be buried according to their cultural and religious customs have received threats of arrest from the agents of the Ministry of Intelligence, the report added. Mohabat News

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

il suggest you leave this forum

I suggest you start at the top of this thread and read back down to this post - I will answer you at a later time, but in the meantime familiarize yourself with the chronological events and whether the policies of the site have been evenhandedly administered. One of my concerns is how Iranians have been portrayed on this site long before I showed up. I will not support every Armenian - but do respect many Armenians.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

@ Mos:

You've posted this before:

"Adiva Mirza Soleiman Kalimi, a xxxish Iranian, and her husband, Varoujan Petrosian, an Armenian Iranian along with another woman and two men, whose identities remain unknown, were secretly executed in Evin Prison."

Yes - in Iran we have strict rules on subversive and disloyal minorities - which is why it surprises me that the administrators of this forum have allowed you (and others) to propagate comments against Iranians for years to create bad-blood among Iranians and Armenians; and even worse to teach youngsters to emulate you.

Let me help you out - in 2005 Miro Begijanian decided to use the same types of comments that you encourage other Armenians to use on this site and an Iranian instantly beat him to death.

Keep it up partner - you reap what you sow. ( "for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap" - GALATIANS 6: 7-9 (KJV) .)

You're a stud Mos: Whatever kind of Armenian you are - you're much worse than a nationalistic Turk.

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Make sure your sock-puppet understands that too:


@ Edojan / Mos
... it's true we're fearless:

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Don't hurt the messenger, just was posting news about an unfortunate execution. This isn't a statement against Iranian people, maybe a statement against Iranian justice system....

[Eddo211]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

[QUOTE=Persopolis;315802

We are fearless[/quote]

Most Iranis blow in the direction of the prevailing wind.

Very careless riding for allowing a passenger to ride along on stunts, let alone without proper protection.......you can pop wheelies all day long if you want but putting others lives at risk is against riders code of conduct.

This shows the frustration of the young generation with their situation and the system. Do you know what the problem is Pers omad polis?

It is a system of a down.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

@ Eddo,

What's that terrible noise in the song you posted ... listen to some classical Persian music instead. Farouk Belsara (Freddie Mercury)
(Iranian = ethnicity; Zanzibar = childhood; British citizen; Zoroastrian-Irani)

This shows the frustration of the young generation with their situation and the system.

My heart bleeds for the oppressed. How could we make them wear those "veils" - their ears are totally covered.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

ARMENIAN HISTORY UPDATE

I have received feedback from several authoritative sources regarding the genealogy of Armenians - the sources include the Armenian Church, Armenian Historians; and other Scholars in the field. It will likely take me months (depending on the time I have) to post that material in a synthesized format. I have already looked over some of the information and found it very interesting.

From What I can tell so far, The Answer to the Highly Simplified Question: Are Armenians Iranians? Is both "Yes" AND "No" - it depends. But for certain, Armenians are closest to Iranians. The actual details are very interesting. By the way - My earlier description of the Sassanian / Arsacid history is accurate: Anyone interested in that part of the history (considering that its a lengthy part of Armenian history) can go and find it buried somewhere in this thread.

(Don't bother responding to this post - as it is nothing more than an announcement of information that will be posted later.)

[Eddo211]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

ARMENIAN HISTORY UPDATE

From What I can tell so far, The Answer to the Highly Simplified Question: Are Armenians Iranians? Is both "Yes" AND "No" - it depends.

You mean like the way you acused me of contradicting myself?

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Please read what it says:

You mean like the way you acused me of contradicting myself?

ARMENIAN HISTORY UPDATE ... (Don't bother responding to this post - as it is nothing more than an announcement of information that will be posted later.)

Originally Posted by Eddo211
Iranian Armenians only mixed with other Armenians (past, present, future).

Originally Posted by Eddo211
We have however mixed to a small degree with our Persian "Brothers" in the past....Persian girls steal Armenian hearts
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No I didn't *accuse* you of contradicting yourself - I proved it. Syllogistic logic is mathematical in nature: When one says "In the past, present, & future" Iranian-Armenians "only" mixed with Armenians as a means of denying that they mixed with Iranians, and then also says in separate comment "We have however mixed to a small degree with Persians" that is a logical contradiction: case closed. However, it's no big whoop - I'm not saying you're the devil, I am just pointing it out because people completely freaked-out over the fact that I pointed-out there was some mixing going on. I even showed contemporary pictures of mixed Iranian-Armenian families (see below) and there was a damn near riot here among some - while others were totally comfortable with it and recognized the obvious.

Secondly, my accouncement of the material (above) that I will post (if I ever get the chance) does not relate solely to Iranian-Armenians (the subject of the topic above); it relates to (a) the pre-Armenian people (loosely described as the "caveman days" of history); (b) the migration of these people; and (c) who among them eventually mixed with Iranians, when, why, and for how long. Not all of the pre-Armenian people did mix with Iranians (but a lot of those people are also deceased) - in fact, you will find out that there are significant differences in anthropological and genetic patterns.

But here is one thing everyone can take at face value: The dispute between the Arscacid-Armenians and Sasanians was a dispute among Iranian People -- both are Iranians and had a spat over feudal power. Later the Iranian-Ascacid-Armenians also mixed with Sasanian-Iranians after the Sasanians consolidated the empire. I.e., there were at least 2 layers of mixing going on among Iranian tribes. What does that mean in practical terms: If you are Armenian and someone at the supermarket mistakes you for being Iranian - it's probably not a mistake. Lastly, if you are Iranian-Armenian you have a lot to be proud about: In many ways this was the Golden-Era of Armenian prosperity and advancement in the world.

Here's a simple -- yet armchair (informal) -- method if you are curious about your genealogy; if you look like one of the people below, we're cousins: You can even compare the picture of the Iranian-Armenian woman below to the Muslim Iranian women in two prior posts.