Politics in Hayastan

[Haykakan]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

This developments only shows the verifications of the really well known connection of corruption/politics ..to rule is to steal for them ....so in fear of real tax auditions and real economical repercussions he backed up not even thinking of his mighty HONOR AND MANLINESS ,i spit and laugh at those REAL thiefs ALL of THEM ...with their incompetence we are underdeveloped ..the people is set to live according their own paradigms to be able just survive ...young peoples dreams and lifes is set by those peoples limitations and boundaries ...

Everything is slow developed or underdeveloped ..our enemies are happy and thrive by some NGO's and religious organizations/sects.

All of this cause they are incompetent ...corrupted ....

Welcome to capitalism.

[Serjik]

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Thats Armenia's biggest problem recent years, no capitalism no oligharchy.

Welcome to capitalism.

[Mher]

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Welcome to capitalism.

saying Armenia is an example of capitalism is like claiming North Korea is an example of socialism. All of the basic issues in Armenia can be attributed to the lack of rule of law: lack of functioning courts, lack of laws that mean anything, corrupt economic practices. Try any economic policy, any party, any leader, when the basic laws of governing and the constitution are meaningless, your will have a failed system.

[Eddo211]

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Well guys I don't think we can compare to other countries and how they operate. Capitalism, democracy, corruption and mickey mouse......we are Armenians so much different breaking heads but we are still a very young Democracy (I can hear Haykakan blow his top, lol).
Maybe we need more time with a good chance of screwing it up even more and not learn even from our own history. Every Armenian thinks he/she knows politics and President but in reality we have been immature in politics.

[londontsi]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

LIVE Parkavaj Hayastan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=54f615bb-0000-201c-8e13-001a113f8ad8&feature=iv&src_vid=dqwOqHon8Bc&v=az-eKChvm9U

[Haykakan]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

saying Armenia is an example of capitalism is like claiming North Korea is an example of socialism. All of the basic issues in Armenia can be attributed to the lack of rule of law: lack of functioning courts, lack of laws that mean anything, corrupt economic practices. Try any economic policy, any party, any leader, when the basic laws of governing and the constitution are meaningless, your will have a failed system.

Mher your refusal to see facts and live in you own fantasy is quite remarkable. You can look at the results of democracy all around you and see what I am talking about but no you refuse to look at facts and prefer to dwell in some ulternate reality. You could look at Greece and see the evolution of Democracy, or you can look at USA, or really any other from hundreds of examples and see how and why democracy and capitalism fail but no you want to believe in a hopeful present and a hopeful future which unfortunately do not exist. Capitalism leads to the corruption of democracy with the wealthy making the laws. You can see this happening everywhere over and over again right in front of your eyes. Why are the poor getting poorer while the rich are getting richer? It is quite clear and simple to understand .. the rich make the laws so they make laws that favor them while the poor have no voice in government. This is the inevitable result of capitalism coupled with democracy and it is so plain and simple to understand with thousands of easily visible examples for you to see but you intentionally blind yourself to the obvious in order to dwell in your alternate reality. This is exactly what brainwashing is.

[Mher]

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Mher your refusal to see facts and live in you own fantasy is quite remarkable. You can look at the results of democracy all around you and see what I am talking about but no you refuse to look at facts and prefer to dwell in some ulternate reality. You could look at Greece and see the evolution of Democracy, or you can look at USA, or really any other from hundreds of examples and see how and why democracy and capitalism fail but no you want to believe in a hopeful present and a hopeful future which unfortunately do not exist. Capitalism leads to the corruption of democracy with the wealthy making the laws. You can see this happening everywhere over and over again right in front of your eyes. Why are the poor getting poorer while the rich are getting richer? It is quite clear and simple to understand .. the rich make the laws so they make laws that favor them while the poor have no voice in government. This is the inevitable result of capitalism coupled with democracy and it is so plain and simple to understand with thousands of easily visible examples for you to see but you intentionally blind yourself to the obvious in order to dwell in your alternate reality. This is exactly what brainwashing is.

First of let me say I grew up in Iran, so life in America isn't exactly the worst in my view, because I've seen how much worse it gets. You can pretty much become anybody you want here, despite some problems in the system, if you have you sh-t together. Second of all, if I could chose to live in the United States, or the Soviet Union, I would chose the United States by a mile. I don't know what delusional worldview you have, but to me I rather live in the place where there is basic rule of law, basic judiciary system, and you can have whatever religious or political views you wish to have. Whatever socio economic flaws that exist in this country are a drop in the bucket compared to the many crimes against humanity committed against its own population by virtually every communist country that has existed in the past 100 years. America has done plenty wrong in its foreign policy, but America has is pretty good as far as American welfare is concerned.

But more importantly, you see one thing and call it another. The problems in Greece aren't because of capitalism. They're because of poor governance, undisciplined borrowing, and an unrealistic socialist system. The situation in Greece is more of condemnation of socialism than capitalism.

I personally believe the ideal system is a reined in capitalist system that prevents special interests from abusing the system, such as the system implemented in the Nordic countries. That is the result of having rule of law, and a system not prone to abuse or manipulation. The lack of such system is the cause of problems in Armenia, and to a much much MUCH lesser extent in America. But at the end of the day, I would prefer America's flawed system to any communist system out there

[Mher]

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Armenian Constitutional Reform Back On Track

President Serzh Sarkisian is pressing ahead with a controversial constitutional reform that would transform Armenia into a parliamentary republic, parliament speaker Galust Sahakian said on Thursday.

According to Sahakian, corresponding draft amendments to the Armenian constitution are likely to be put on a referendum by the beginning of next year.

The amendments will stem from a reform “concept” that was put forward in October by an ad hoc presidential commission. Sarkisian postponed a formal acceptance of the document at the time in the face of street protests staged by Armenia’s three leading opposition parties. The latter have strongly opposed the constitutional reform, saying that it is aimed at enabling Sarkisian to stay in power after completing his second and final term in 2018.

Sarkisian strongly defended the planned amendments on February 12 as he ordered a government crackdown on the Prosperous Armenia Party (BHK), the most important member of the opposition trio. Still, he stopped short of explicitly announcing a resumption of the reform process. Such an announcement is expected in the coming weeks.

“The concept is under public discussion,” Sahakian told reporters. “Not only Republicans but also all other political forces and civic structures can discuss it.”

“As for the [amended] constitution itself, I think it will be published very soon,” he said. “It will naturally be put on a referendum.”

Asked about possible dates of the referendum, the deputy chairman of the ruling Republican Party of Armenia (HHK) said, “I think the draft will most probably be ready this fall. But I can’t say for certain whether [the referendum] will be held this fall or in the spring of 2016.”

In late January, BHK leader Gagik Tsarukian threatened to topple Sarkisian with non-stop street protests if the president presses ahead with the reform. However, the ensuing government crackdown forced Tsarukian to not only drop those threats but also effectively end his political activities. His retirement from politics will remove a major hurdle to the passage of the constitutional changes planned by Sarkisian.

http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/26883731.html

[Haykakan]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

First of let me say I grew up in Iran, so life in America isn't exactly the worst in my view, because I've seen how much worse it gets. You can pretty much become anybody you want here, despite some problems in the system, if you have you sh-t together. Second of all, if I could chose to live in the United States, or the Soviet Union, I would chose the United States by a mile. I don't know what delusional worldview you have, but to me I rather live in the place where there is basic rule of law, basic judiciary system, and you can have whatever religious or political views you wish to have. Whatever socio economic flaws that exist in this country are a drop in the bucket compared to the many crimes against humanity committed against its own population by virtually every communist country that has existed in the past 100 years. America has done plenty wrong in its foreign policy, but America has is pretty good as far as American welfare is concerned.

But more importantly, you see one thing and call it another. The problems in Greece aren't because of capitalism. They're because of poor governance, undisciplined borrowing, and an unrealistic socialist system. The situation in Greece is more of condemnation of socialism than capitalism.

I personally believe the ideal system is a reined in capitalist system that prevents special interests from abusing the system, such as the system implemented in the Nordic countries. That is the result of having rule of law, and a system not prone to abuse or manipulation. The lack of such system is the cause of problems in Armenia, and to a much much MUCH lesser extent in America. But at the end of the day, I would prefer America's flawed system to any communist system out there

What you do not understand is that the flawed system you are referring to is in progressive degeneration and no one really understands how bad it is going to get. The outlook you have over what options there are is quite limited. There is way more out there then just communism and capitalism. A dog only sees black and white and cannot even imagine anything being any other color.

[Mher]

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What you do not understand is that the flawed system you are referring to is in progressive degeneration and no one really understands how bad it is going to get. The outlook you have over what options there are is quite limited. There is way more out there then just communism and capitalism. A dog only sees black and white and cannot even imagine anything being any other color.

so what you are saying is that it has indeed been a decent system, but we should trust you that it is going to get bad?
I didn't say those are the only two options. I mentioned communism because from your previous comments you seem to have an affection for it.