Iranians in Armenia

[Haykakan]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

You know, the ones lingering around since the USSR... mostly still in influential positions.

Actually Putin got rid of a lot of them. There arent many in Armenias government thats for sure unless LTP takes over again.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Wanting tourism to increase in Armenia is great, wanting Armenia to become a multi racial and multi cultural cesspool like Western Europe is national suicide.

[Mos]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Wanting tourism to increase in Armenia is great, wanting Armenia to become a multi racial and multi cultural cesspool like Western Europe is national suicide.

Armenia becoming multi racial/cutural is horrible idea who would want such a thing? There's barely 3 million people in hayastan. Man if you let these Americans they will send trucks of blacks/arabs to breed with Armenians and make Armenia in Bangladesh.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Armenia becoming multi racial/cutural is horrible idea who would want such a thing? There's barely 3 million people in hayastan. Man if you let these Americans they will send trucks of blacks/arabs to breed with Armenians and make Armenia in Bangladesh.

Our resident multi culturalist, aka haykakan seems to believe diversity in Armenia will only make it better, full stop, with no regards to how diversity also means a change in culture and eventually the people's ethnic make up as well. In the end the people who made the culture are no longer to be found, and soon the culture follows the same tracks as the ethnic group, that is to oblivion. Of course this is in reference to mass migration of non Armenians, in the hundreds of thousands, and it is made worse of the migrants are not from a culture and ethnic group similar to Armenians.

[Haykakan]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Our resident multi culturalist, aka haykakan seems to believe diversity in Armenia will only make it better, full stop, with no regards to how diversity also means a change in culture and eventually the people's ethnic make up as well. In the end the people who made the culture are no longer to be found, and soon the culture follows the same tracks as the ethnic group, that is to oblivion. Of course this is in reference to mass migration of non Armenians, in the hundreds of thousands, and it is made worse of the migrants are not from a culture and ethnic group similar to Armenians.

You have no understanding of what culture is nor do you understand your own makeup. Culture changes along with everything else on this earth. Cultures that do not change go extinct just like everything else on this earth. Accepting others will make you stronger and being a racist idiot will completly destroy a country, culture and everything else. You fail to understand that your own make up both cultural and genetic is a combination of other cultures and genes just like all other peoples cultures and genes. Sure one culture is a bit different then another and so is ones genetic makeup but you fail miserably to understand that your not as special as you make yourself out to be. Our Armenian culture is among the richest on earth and i am as proud as can be of our people and heritage but i am not so self absorbed as to not understand how culture, genetics, life works. Should those iranians come to armenia to stay it will be the best case scenerio for our people and country. Just because they have a different religion you and your dim witted friend consider Iranians as some extraterrestrial demons when in reality they are closer to us geneticaly and culturally then anyone else. Even if a hundred thousand iranians moved perminently to Armenia (which is a fantasy) they would eventually assimilate and become Armenians and contribute to our country in every way. Sure they will bring some of their culture along with them and this will make our culture even richer instead of making it die like you claim it will. This reminds me of those who claimed Armenia would disolve into turckishness if the western border was to open up. Fyi all u racists afraid of assimilation- Armenians endured a millenia of living within the borders of other empires yet those empires are gone and were still here. You think your protecting your people and country by being closed in every possible way but in reality your discrediting your own people and culture by assuming that it cannot handle anything besides the limits of your own closed mind. Do your really think that during the days of tigran the great there were only armenians in our empire? Our people in even the longest distance back in time were never as racist as you and your buddies. Racism is a cancer brought out from withing the closed mind and as it spreads it closes other minds and guerantees the destruction of a individual-group,society, culture, nation...Neither culture nore genetics are meant to be incased in a tumb and racism is the exact manifestation of the closed mind in it own tumb.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

You have no understanding of what culture is nor do you understand your own makeup. Culture changes along with everything else on this earth. Cultures that do not change go extinct just like everything else on this earth. Accepting others will make you stronger and being a racist idiot will completly destroy a country, culture and everything else. You fail to understand that your own make up both cultural and genetic is a combination of other cultures and genes just like all other peoples cultures and genes. Sure one culture is a bit different then another and so is ones genetic makeup but you fail miserably to understand that your not as special as you make yourself out to be. Our Armenian culture is among the richest on earth and i am as proud as can be of our people and heritage but i am not so self absorbed as to not understand how culture, genetics, life works. Should those iranians come to armenia to stay it will be the best case scenerio for our people and country. Just because they have a different religion you and your dim witted friend consider Iranians as some extraterrestrial demons when in reality they are closer to us geneticaly and culturally then anyone else. Even if a hundred thousand iranians moved perminently to Armenia (which is a fantasy) they would eventually assimilate and become Armenians and contribute to our country in every way. Sure they will bring some of their culture along with them and this will make our culture even richer instead of making it die like you claim it will. This reminds me of those who claimed Armenia would disolve into turckishness if the western border was to open up. Fyi all u racists afraid of assimilation- Armenians endured a millenia of living within the borders of other empires yet those empires are gone and were still here. You think your protecting your people and country by being closed in every possible way but in reality your discrediting your own people and culture by assuming that it cannot handle anything besides the limits of your own closed mind. Do your really think that during the days of tigran the great there were only armenians in our empire? Our people in even the longest distance back in time were never as racist as you and your buddies. Racism is a cancer brought out from withing the closed mind and as it spreads it closes other minds and guerantees the destruction of a individual-group,society, culture, nation...Neither culture nore genetics are meant to be incased in a tumb and racism is the exact manifestation of the closed mind in it own tumb.

You must want to get banned with all the name calling. Keep it up, and that is what will happen, seeing as you can't defend your points without assuming and then resorting to childish insults.


Actually my understanding of culture is just fine, at least much better than the liberal nonsense that you like to spew. Do you know that many languages and the culture they represent die every year, also do you realize why there is a movement against globalization, it's not just about economics, it has to do with the materialization and bastardization of culture as well.

You fail to show or prove how racism will destory a country, especially one that is 100% Caucasian race, and 97% one particular ethnicity. It's a lot easier to make fantasical claims and paint all those who do not agree with your self destructive, one world ideas, as racists, loons, and ignorant people in general.

I stated earlier I had no problem with Iranians or anyone else visiting Armenia, I did have issues with non Armenians, and especially non Christians and non Caucasians moving on mass to Armenia. This is not likely to happen, but it was a theoretical discussion. Your anti-religious, anti-tradition, and anti-Armenian stance is exactly what would and wll destroy our people. Please do us a favor and stay in a country that is already far down the liberal path to oblivion, we don't need one world, one culture supporters in Armenia. (It's kinda nice assuming things about you; at the same time it should show you why not to assume, and instead ask in a civil way)

A large group of people moving to a certain country in this day an age will not assimilate, just look at the large Arab, and Muslim population of Europe. It is people like you who preach multi culturalism and if anyone dares mention that these people should assimilate or very least integrate then they are labeled racisits by self designated 'thinkers' such as yourself.

Armenians survivied in mult culturalism in large part because we were a religious minority, but you hate religion and see it as the evil in all things, so maybe you will just discount this point or all other valid points that disprove your rants. Just look at what happened to the Armenians who migrated to Christian Europe, within a few generations they were assimilated, and forever lost. Furthermore, in those times things dismissed by you, such as religion, tradition, and ethncity played a greater role than they do now; there were no liberals and nwoers to howl about multi culturalism.

As for the Armenian empire, the whole notion of an empire means there are people of different ethnic groups and even races in an empire, so what the hell is your point? Throughout Armenian history we have only had one empire, and it was short lived. The rest we had small, homogenious kingdoms/princedoms or were under foreign rule.

"racism guerantees the destruction of a individual-group,society, culture, nation"

More nonesense coming out of your mouth. When will you give up this delusion?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Replace the word "racism" with "competition". The best competitors win in a race and that's the reason Armenians are still around. In the Ottoman Empire, Armenians excelled in all levels of society surpassing Greeks and xxxs. I'm not so sure Armenians who are hardly past a whole generation of independence can compete with Iranians on their own turf.

[Haykakan]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Kanada you underestimate Hayastantsis. They can more then compete with anyone in business. They managed impressive economic growth in a state of blockade and war while the mighty usa was having economic problems. As for Armanen your beyond hope. If you dont see how racism destroys everything good in this world then i got nothing more to say to you.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

i got nothing more to say to you

That's for the best since you keep repeating yourself, and really don't have anything of substance to say other than one line cliches.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Kanada you underestimate Hayastantsis. They can more then compete with anyone in business. They managed impressive economic growth in a state of blockade and war while the mighty usa was having economic problems. As for Armanen your beyond hope. If you dont see how racism destroys everything good in this world then i got nothing more to say to you.

The USA doesn't have economic problems, the problem is all the money goes to Israel, the US military (as well as sales of military weapons to other countries) and Israel's interests around the world.


As for Armenian "growth", it was because of welfare and not true economic growth

Over the past 16 years, the U.S. has provided nearly $2 billion in assistance to Armenia, the highest per capita amount in the NIS. Humanitarian aid originally accounted for up to 85% of this total, reflecting the economic paralysis caused by closed borders with Turkey and Azerbaijan related to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, destruction in northern Armenia left from the devastating 1988 earthquake, and the closure of most of the country's factories.

As conditions in Armenia have improved, with the stabilization of the economy and increased energy production--including the restarting of the Armenian Nuclear Power Plant near the capital--U.S. assistance programs have progressed from humanitarian priorities to longer-term development goals.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/5275.htm