Iranians in Armenia

[Haykakan]

Re: Iranians in Armenia

Mos you have much to learn about the world yet and i hope your a young man so that perhaps with time you will learn the important lessons of life which you badly need. Scaring off these Iranians is the worst possible thing you can do for Armenia. The explanations of why it is such a bad thing have been given to you by different people here in different ways. The fact that you still feel the way you do means you are not using logic nor are you interested in doing what is right for our country. Whatever personal issue you have with Iranians pales in comparson to the issues facing our country. If you ever gave a rats ass about Armenia you should stop haressing these tourists because they are setting up the foundations for different sectors of Armenias economy. If a iranian dude slept with some chik you liked then thats life-GET OVER IT! Stop hurting our countries future and go do something constructive with yourself.

[Eddo211]

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Don't be so hard on Mos guys...........he is hardliner defender of Christianity
His views are not only towards Iranian Muslims.



Mos, don't scare off the paying costumers...........damn dude.

[ashot24]

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I will also comment one thing, all the else is nonsense after nonsense

Also, most of the Iranians who come come from Northern Iran thus most are really Azeri or very close to Azeri rather than the central/southern Persians.

The Iranian Azaries are not the same, not morally, not historically than the Caucasian Tatars and Turks claiming to be their "ancestors", and as much as those idiots go to Northern Iran to promote their pan-turanist BS of "South Azerbaijan" and anti-Iranian sentiments, the people is not buying, they're aware and proud of their Iranian heritage...they just speak a Turkic language, but as history and linguistics teach us, speaking a language from a X origin has nothing to do with the common history of your people.

Already, many Armenians are annoyed with these Iranians and often there is fights with these Iranians. The only way is to scare them off.

I doubt that, I think you're annoyed and believe everyone is as well.

[Haykakan]

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Ashot your points are very valid about the iranian turcks being more iranian then turck. Unfortunatly many people do indeed think like Mos because they are accustomed to seeing nothing but Armenians in Armenia and it is easy to see how a influx of nonarmenians can make these people feel that their dear country is being overruned by foreighners. The truth is (as i have extensively covered this topic before in a different thread) Armenia badly needs diversity and the benefits derived from it. These foreigners spending time and money in Armenia is the best thing that has happened to Armenia in a looooong time and it can get much-MUCH better. This goes along with what i have written before about being accepting of others and how this accaptence can lead to a better and stronger society and country. Like every one else, should some of these iranians decide to settle in our country they will assimilate (sme more then others) and actually increase our population, economy, taxbase, militeray strength, .... I think you get the point. It is time for Armenia to grow for a change instead of always shrinking.

[Lucin]

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Mos, I'll be in Armenia in summer and I'm bringing my Iranian friends too! Actually a big group of them!

[Haykakan]

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Mos, I'll be in Armenia in summer and I'm bringing my Iranian friends too! Actually a big group of them!

The more the merrier! Iranians are the closest things to a friend Armenia has today.

[Mos]

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The general mood in Armenia that I've felt is anti-Iranian just because they do a lot of hooligan things in Yerevan. Like drug dealing, women trafficking, and becoming territorial (this club is for iranians only). And also they know that police can't do anything to them because they don't have armenian passport so they do what they want. That is fact. The other European tourists have much better behavior and respect towards Armenia and thus we are much more open to them.

Immigration has to be tougher in the sense that these Iranians can't be given green light to just come and start living in Armenia as smugglers and crooks.

[Mos]

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The more the merrier! Iranians are the closest things to a friend Armenia has today.

pff, Iranians as friends? Yeah right.

[ashot24]

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The general mood in Armenia that I've felt is anti-Iranian just because they do a lot of hooligan things in Yerevan. Like drug dealing, women trafficking, and becoming territorial (this club is for iranians only). And also they know that police can't do anything to them because they don't have armenian passport so they do what they want. That is fact. The other European tourists have much better behavior and respect towards Armenia and thus we are much more open to them.

Immigration has to be tougher in the sense that these Iranians can't be given green light to just come and start living in Armenia as smugglers and crooks.

Not everyone Mos, come on! There are good people and bad people, but you can't judge who is who just from their ethnic background. Any people can come, and bad people will come...but Europeans are as corrupted and damaged as anybody can be, the fact their Europeans or of whatever religion has nothing to do with what kind of people they are.

We are friendly people and I don't think we can be getting around "anti-" anything feelings, Hayastancis may feel sort of weird about it, knowing very well that tourism to our country, at least in such a big number, is not very common, but I don't believe we can be feeling some kind of animosity towards anybody. We are friendly people who receive other with open arms, that kind of warm people is one of the reasons they prefer to go to Armenia. We are a friendly and warm country with truthful people who respect each other, and anybody with a bit of common sense would prefer to go to Armenia rather than to a country where hate and animosity towards others is widely promoted

And Iranians are our friends, much more than anybody around can be. It's the only friendly country we share a border with and they are happy the Armenian border with Iran is bigger through NKR (which is yet another reason why to NOT give back any territory!), tourism from Iran is present now in Armenia and is a good thing since it helps our economy and to build more ties of friendship. Imagine Mos, what a good deal it would be to side the the regions two more important potencies, Russia and Iran, maybe we could in a future build a pipeline through our territory! We can only get good things coming out of this friendship more than we can get from getting friendly with Turkey or Georgia.

[Haykakan]

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I agree with Ashot. Iran is our friendliest neighbor and it is very normal to host them in great numbers. Mos, what you and many other Armenians in hayastan feel is understandible and it is due to the long isolation and homogenous nature of our country. We are so used to seeing nothing but Armenians in Armenia that seeing foreighners especialy muslims and blacks seems like a very abnormal thing when in reality it is a very healthy sighn of economic growth and national progression and prosperity. Yes Iranians can be your friends to if you gave them half the chance. Many armenians including members of this forum have iranian friends and iranians are very important business partners to armenian businesses. Hate will get you nowhere fast-try opening your heart and you may be pleasently surprised by what you find.