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  • #41
    Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    no Iran hasn't

    http://genocide.am/article/recognition_of_the_armenian_genocide.html


    yeah great allies....
    Probably the j3wish community in Iran holding things up like everywhere else.

    YEREVAN,9th SEPTEMBER 2004.Iranian President Seyed Mohammad Khatami, in the second day of his official visit to Armenia, visited the Memorial Complex Tsitsernakaberd in Yerevan and laid a wreath on the Memorial for the Victims of the Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey in 1915.

    "Talking to journalists, Lavrentiy Barseghyan said that the Iranian leader has become the forth Moslem leader to visit Tsitsernakaberd after the presidents of Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Lebanon. It is of great importance that the president of such a big country as Iran having friendly relations with us in the South Caucasus visited this place so sacred to every Armenian, Barseghyan said. He expressed hope for recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Iran in the nearest future. "

    http://www.ourararat.com/eng/e_khatami.htm
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #42
      Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Probably the j3wish community in Iran holding things up like everywhere else.

      YEREVAN,9th SEPTEMBER 2004.Iranian President Seyed Mohammad Khatami, in the second day of his official visit to Armenia, visited the Memorial Complex Tsitsernakaberd in Yerevan and laid a wreath on the Memorial for the Victims of the Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey in 1915.

      "Talking to journalists, Lavrentiy Barseghyan said that the Iranian leader has become the forth Moslem leader to visit Tsitsernakaberd after the presidents of Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Lebanon. It is of great importance that the president of such a big country as Iran having friendly relations with us in the South Caucasus visited this place so sacred to every Armenian, Barseghyan said. He expressed hope for recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Iran in the nearest future. "

      http://www.ourararat.com/eng/e_khatami.htm
      right xxxish community has huge affect on Iranian politics

      President mentioning the word Genocide is not the same as the national assembly together with the leaders officially recognizing the Genocide. If we consider a country to be ally, they first should recognize the genocide. Countries I really respected are ones like France and Netherlands, that don't cave into Turkish pressure and have even enacted laws against denial of Armenian Genocide. These countries, especially France, are our true allies, unfortunately they are far away from us. Oh and don't get to cozy with Iran, I often see Ahmadinejad huddled with Erdogan, and recently a top Iranian religious leader said some BS about Karabakh and how it belongs to Azerbaijan and how we destroyed their holy mosques..
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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      • #43
        Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Probably the j3wish community in Iran holding things up like everywhere else.
        lol wut.

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        • #44
          Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

          sure there may have been some rich xxxs who may have helped, but the actions of a few selfish people doesn't mean that the xxxs as a whole wanted the Armenians killed.
          Also the Turks as a whole didn't wanted the Armenians get killed, but I don't care about that, as most of the Turks did not mind and the elite helped to destory the Armenian race, the same for xxxs, Kurds and Germans. The difference is, Germany and Kurds acknowledge the Armenian genocide whereas Israel openly denies it and has a very anti-Armenian policy. Most of the xxxs dont mind the policy, you know that.

          First of all, you must understand that the everyday person in Turkey and Azerbaijan do not care that much about Armenia. Yes, you have the nationalistic goons who get highlighted that say stupid things, that doesn't mean every Turk and Azeri wants destruction of Armenia. In Armenia the youth don't want to be bother with Karabakh issue or Turkish relations, they are preoccupied with the yerevan life.
          The world does not care about everyday persons, but about the persons who have the ability to use the everyday persons (the everday persons in Turkey have genocidal blood and can be called upon to exterminate the Armenians as we have seen). It's about what the national ideology and ultimate goal is of a country, and that of Turkey is based upon destruction.

          We have to live them, we have no other choice, unfortunately. And I don't like Turks, don't get me wrong, after all they killed many of my relatives during genocide, and their government still denies this.
          We do not have to live with them, we should play the game smart ut diplomatically and economically and always prepare for the worse. I do not see Armenians living next to the Turks in the future like in the old days. The life of the few Armenians in Turkey living together with the genocidal barbarian Turks is very hard.

          peace can never be forced with military might. And sorry, but our military doesn't stand a chance against Turkey's.
          Peace can be forced with military might, just look at Artsakh. Turkey is an interesting case, here we need an ally (Russia) and when really a war breaks out the Kurds can be very usefull (as well as Greece, Syria, Iran and all other countries who hate Turkey).

          In the Karabakh issue, I agree with an aggressive stance, but would you also want us to have to rule 8-10 million Azeris?
          No, we should just throw them in the Caspian sea.

          Let me remind you that many Muslim nations held solidarity with Azerbaijan during the war. The Organization of Muslim states has probably declared hundreds of Azeri propaganda about Karabakh. And they helped Azeris financially a lot during the war and supplied mercenaries (Afghan mujahadeen, Chechen terrorists). So don't be so quick to fall into their laps either. remember during the Armenian Genocide, in order for the Turks not to kill us we had to convert to Islam, and so Ottomans massacred the Christian minorities in their empire. So Muslims in general haven't been our allies either. In short, we've had very few allies throughout history. We have to learn not to become to reliant on any power, including Russia. as Russia would sell us in a heartbeat for Azeri oil.
          Let me remind you that muslim nations only bark but don't support each other, it's fake. Just like with Palestina, they do not support their Arab brothers. There are extremists, like Afghan and Chechen mujahedeen, but Iran (muslim nation) has supported Armenia. During the war European nations (Israel, America, Brittain) supported Azerbaijan, don't ignore this.

          We have to do it ourselves and should have good relations with our close (muslim) neighbours like Iran and Arab states, and with European countries, we should not make a difference. Again don't believe the European anti-Muslim hysteria, that is bullxxxx.

          Our true enemies are Turkey, Azerbaijan directly supported by Israel and Pakistan (and Great Brittain).
          Last edited by Tigranakert; 06-12-2010, 08:35 AM.

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          • #45
            Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

            Originally posted by Mos View Post
            right xxxish community has huge affect on Iranian politics
            Do you have proof that they don't? You underestimate their influence.

            http://www.sephardicstudies.org/iran.html

            Originally posted by Mos View Post
            President mentioning the word Genocide is not the same as the national assembly together with the leaders officially recognizing the Genocide. If we consider a country to be ally, they first should recognize the genocide. Countries I really respected are ones like France and Netherlands, that don't cave into Turkish pressure and have even enacted laws against denial of Armenian Genocide. These countries, especially France, are our true allies, unfortunately they are far away from us. Oh and don't get to cozy with Iran, I often see Ahmadinejad huddled with Erdogan, and recently a top Iranian religious leader said some BS about Karabakh and how it belongs to Azerbaijan and how we destroyed their holy mosques..
            Armenians get all giddy and excited about an American President mentioning the word Genocide and then stone him when he doesn't. LIKE WHO CARES. We are a pathetic bunch of cry babies. We should have reached positions of influence in the diaspora by now but instead we're lazy socialists that want everybody else to do our work.

            France betrayed us, perhaps they feel guilty for being part to blame for the deaths of 1.5 million Armenians. I hope Turkey and Iran do get cozy and get rid of that pest in the middle east that only brings war to the region. But that's not likely to happen since it's all theatrics.
            Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-12-2010, 10:00 AM.
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            • #46
              Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

              Mos you Great General with your great military skills already concluded that we gone loose a war against Turkey...Nice of you so i will not aspect your arrival i guess ...

              Im gone slap you in the face if i wear near you..Wake up you GOD DAM LOoSERS ..

              What the hell you know about anything that has to do with military?Dont talk about an issue you are not familiar at get it??
              More if you will not do anything about it is that clear ??
              Cause stupid stuff you write in here people can see them and draw there own conclusions..

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              • #47
                Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                I don't understand why you want to have WW3 occur in our region? Having a war between Russia Turkey Kurds Armenians etc. would be disastrous. Two of my cousins and several of my friends are serving in the Armenian Army right now, and I can tell you none of the wants war. They want to finish their service as soon as possible and come back home and marry, get a good job, etc. Armenia right now is facing many problems, like healthcare, migration, debt, etc. We have to prioritize and in addition to keeping our country safe, improving our country infrastructure and social issues, which are many. Russia will never join in a war against Turkey, especially since Turkey and Russia right now are very good economic partners and are growing closer together. This is not 100 years ago. We must be realistic.
                Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                ---
                "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                • #48
                  Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                  Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
                  Mos you Great General with your great military skills already concluded that we gone loose a war against Turkey...Nice of you so i will not aspect your arrival i guess ...

                  Im gone slap you in the face if i wear near you..Wake up you GOD DAM LOoSERS ..

                  What the hell you know about anything that has to do with military?Dont talk about an issue you are not familiar at get it??
                  More if you will not do anything about it is that clear ??
                  Cause stupid stuff you write in here people can see them and draw there own conclusions..
                  It's pretty obvious that Turkey's military is much bigger and advanced than ours. This is fact. After all they are a country of 60 million and we 3 million. And don't get lost in nationalistic ideas, we're not a superpower. We can do well against Azerbaijan but not against Turkey.
                  Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                  ---
                  "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                  • #49
                    Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    I hope Turkey and Iran do get cozy and get rid of that pest in the middle east that only brings war to the region.
                    Once they get rid of Israel, they'll start work on Armenia.

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                    • #50
                      Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                      Armenians get all giddy and excited about an American President mentioning the word Genocide and then stone him when he doesn't. LIKE WHO CARES. We are a pathetic bunch of cry babies. We should have reached positions of influence in the diaspora by now but instead we're lazy socialists that want everybody else to do our work.
                      One of the few instances where Kanada is spot on about something.

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