Turkey's challenge to the Armenians

[imported_Fadix]

There is a book published regarding this issue, it's in French, don't know if there is an English translation though. Don't know about the UN, I hardly use the internet(can't trust it sorry).

Actually it was a report, but since it was passed to a vote, it could be considered as a resolution. Why?

Correction, I mean I hardly uses the internet to fish references.

[Tongue]

Dear Tongue,

You're trying to insult my intelligence, but you don't know what you're talking about. The "1.5 Million" in that sentence refers to the nickname of one member!! Don't get smart with me please and don't try to put words in my mouth.. I said I am leaving, but I need to correct this, because Mustafa didn't claim this to my best knowledge..

And what do you have to say about the picture I posted?




So you're admitting that this people are lying?

[Tongue]

Tongue,

I hope you realized your mistake about that "1.5Million" was a nickname and you just jumped into it just to attack Turkish members of the forum! Aand maybe you want to apologize to me (your comment about my brain, where your brain was somewhere else when you wrote it)!!!
So, first please admit that you made a mistake rather than asking me another question...

Apologize for what? For Mustafa's baseless claims of thousands of Turks being killed in Van by Armenians? His claims of Armenians killing Turks all the time? Apologize to you for calling the horrifying pain my people went through a "war" and blaming it on "both" sides?

"He" or "you" might not say the number was 1.5 million, but the picture I posted proves that many Turks do. And I asked you a simple question. What are your thoughts on the picture? The people who hold that sign are your people representing Turkish view on the Armenian genocide and have beliefs similar to yours and Mustafas...

Why don't you admit it? This has gone too far. Your lies are pathetic, and the picture I posted is a living proof of how brainwashed you and your people really are.

[pathfinder]

If we go back to our basic questions.Armenians attacked the city of van ,invaded and killed the muslim population ( only 8 ppl according to armenian sources:!!!!: )....THis is a historical fact...The deportation was the best solution after this violence..This is the best decision of Talat pasha ever had...Otherwise i strogly believe that there would be no turks living in anatolia after the sevres!!!

Go tell your fiction stories to people who believe you and good luck finding them (outside of Turkey that is).

[1.5 million]

We can not only think of Van events as the massacre of Turks and Kurds of the city. The city was declared as the CAPITAL CITY of so called Armenian State, after the occupation of the city on 14th of april 1915(10 days before 24th of April 1915, when the government started arresting suspected Armenian seperatists).

The massacres of city of Van is more than barbarism it also signaled the point of no return in eastern anatolia, if something has not been done, all eastern Anatolia will be lost to invading Russians and Armenian seperatists.

Completely untrue. Turks fled because of fear of the Russians comming - they were not massacred. Turks delibertly concocted stories regarding this whole event. Stop blaming Armenians. Start correctly blaming the CUP for this whole thing.

[1.5 million]

your ancestors didnt hesitate to produce fake documents such as andonian telegrams...why should we trust your documents nowww....?? if a turkish scholar accepts armenian claims he is an objective honesty man if he doesnt ?? he is a paid servant of the state!!! i ve already posted the names of the many scholars bot turkish and non turkish.did we pay all of them?? the most important orientalist of the current date lewis is lying because we paid himmm...What i see in your all documents surnames ending with yannnn..they are all armenians..i dont trust their objectivity as well....Let us start from the very beginning ..show me how many armenians were living in ottoman empire in 1915?????? ı very well know that u kids don t have an answer!! BUT ILL BE WAITING HERE

Andonian documents are not fake. Just because Turks say they are does not make them so. Stop pathetically denying what occured. Be a man.

[Hovik]

We can not only think of Van events as the massacre of Turks and Kurds of the city.

HA! What Turks and Kurds of that city? Who are you kidding? Everyone knows It was Armenians who were surrounded in those walls and advancing Turkish Army (having already massacred its Armenian conscripts) was getting ready to beat, bound, gag, rape and murder every Armenian inside as they had been doing in other Armenian populated areas. Go read Clarence Ushers AMERICAN account of what happened there form a first hand source.
As I recall it was Kurds who recently apologized for their role in the Armenian Genocide. I have never heard them claim that Armenians did the same to them, especially in VAN, can you give an example of this that we don't know about???

The city was declared as the CAPITAL CITY of so called Armenian State, after the occupation of the city on 14th of april 1915(10 days before 24th of April 1915, when the government started arresting suspected Armenian seperatists).

In case you haven't read Armenian history, VAN was the capital city of the CALLED Armenian State 2000 years before you Turkeys even showed up on the map. It would be nothing new for it to be called the same then... By the way April 24th 1915 wasn't the start of the eradication of Armenians. Lets go back to 1893 to Abdul Hamid, or Adana 1909, and everything inbetween. Don't talk like Armenians threw the first punch, that would be painfully ignorant of you.

The massacres of city of Van is more than barbarism it also signaled the point of no return in eastern anatolia, if something has not been done, all eastern Anatolia will be lost to invading Russians and Armenian seperatists.

You are right, the massacres that Turks perpetrated against Armenians in the city of Van IS MORE THAN BARBARISM!

Lost to Armenian seperatists? Returned is a better way to put it. It was Armenian land in the first place - it would simply be returned to them. You cannot lose what was never rightfully yours...

[pathfinder]

What u guys dont understand is very simple..Make your pr .let so-called armenian genoicede accepted by all the parliaments in the world.BUT WE LL EVER NEVER ACCEPT YOUR CLAIMS....NO WAY...

Honestly, I don't give a sh!t if you or your next door neighbor accepts our claims, as I can see, you are too brainwashed to do so. But yes, we will get international help, we will get it recognized by other parliaments, and one day, whether you like it or not, your government will recognize it too. You can sit in the corner and chew on your nails when that happens.

[imported_Fadix]

And I want to know how Fadix can categorize me as a googler! You must think you're a physcic..

No, I'm not a physcic, but it seems that you're a psychotic(don't worry, maybe Risperdal or Zyprexa might do the trick with you ) I relly on your answers.

[Hovik]

Honestly, I don't give a sh!t if you or your next door neighbor accepts our claims, as I can see, you are too brainwashed to do so. But yes, we will get international help, we will get it recognized by other parliaments, and one day, whether you like it or not, your government will recognize it too. You can sit in the corner and chew on your nails when that happens.

Speaking of which!
LONG LIVE GREAT GERMANY!!! Turkey, your denialist walls are crumbling around you! At what point will you address the worlds knowledge of your past? How humiliated will you be?