Turkey's challenge to the Armenians

[imported_Fadix]

Fadix, I was being polite when I said you might be a psychic...

And you're the first person to define me as psychotic in my whole life based on my replies (you say), congratulations to you. So, if you can make judgments on people that you don't even know based on such limited information (which I believe my posts make a lot of sense to people with common sense), I guess it is not surprising for you to believe in your one-sided version of history making the Armenians absolute victims..

And, I see you're familiar with the solutions to that problem (not everybody knows the name of those drugs), which leaves us with the following options:
1) either you're a psychiatrist, etc.
2) or you have schizophrenia
3) or you are a googler yourself and searched for this to insult me and try to be funny at the same time..

very nice of you to worry about my well being, I appreciate...

way to go Fadix...

Well, thank you..., so I'm the first one.

Sir, I answered clearly and called you a googler, based on your claim regarding the so-called documents, which were fished from the internet, among the rest of your answer. Googler stand here. While you have called me a physcic, when my answer was resonate and accurate. I guess we're in the same boat.

Just for your information, Zyprexa and Risperdal(Risperdal is even used as a sleeping pill) are not only used for schizophrenia, "psychosis" is not proper to schizophrenia.

Are you a psychotic? Well yes, as an element of the mass psychosis, you are psychotic. You deny something just because you are a Turk, and as a Turk you can't accept Armenians as a victim, which BTW is a form of racism.

Truly yours.
PS: don't forget, Zyprexa and Risperdal might help. If you're too afraid to take them, you may try Neurontin, it is considered by many psychiatrist now as the Swiss army of the psychotropic drugs.

[imported_Fadix]

Good for you Fadix, it seems like you know everything, all your answers are accurate..

I don't care what these drugs are used for other than schizophrenia, I don't have the time to search for it, that was just an example. Obviously, you're a lot more knowledgeable in this field...Thank God I don't need any of those, and if I need to you aren't the one that I would consult with.. so, please drop it..

with every post, you are gettting worse Fadix.. You're extremely rude, and I wish you will have to deal with people like yourself who insult you without even knowing you.. what goes around comes around..

I am not going into a discussion about me being a racist, psychotic or not..
done with you,

You come buZzzzing in this board, denying a genocide, and characterizing the Armenians in any way possible, and then you change your mask and become the poor victim unjustfully attacked. We're all grown up adults here,... and don't forget you're the one using the expression: "what goes around comes around.. " so don't cry when it really comes around [you].

Are you a racist? Of course you are. How many none-Turk do you know that deny the Armenian genocide? How much more per population Turks deny the genocide compared to other people?

There is a correlation between your denial and your Turkishness. So, I can conclude that statistically speaking, the chances that you deny the Armenian genocide because you're a Turk is pretty high. This is racism, because you take your decision based on the fact that you are a Turk, and the victims are Armenians. You don't give a sh!t, of wherever the Outous really conducted a genocide against the Toutis. Had you been an Outou, you would probably deny it, just like Pol Pot and his Kmer Rouge denied their butchery against a classes of the society, or just like the NAZI were denying their own crimes.

You can't differenciate yourself from your Turkishness, to judge this event, you are deshuminzed and consider the extermination of a people as a ball game, so sure there is a psychiatrical condition here that should be treated ASAP.

You can possibly not expect Armenians to be good with you, when you accuse their orphaned grandparents, when in their pre-teen ages were witnessing their entire village being destroyed and their parents killed just next to them.

Don't worry, I won't try to change you, I know you can't, this probably is due to a collective psychosis that for the person that is part of it, it would be impossible to distinguish himself from a chimical imbalance psychotic.

What else would explain how the coward and loser author of the website tallarmeniantale would still refuses to accept, even after getting his entire website debunked and exposed.

Don't pretend to be an open minded, Mr. Google.

[1.5 million]

.. If you are human and don't want any other genocide to happen, then work for that cause.. And I think I am able to better judge this event because of my Turkishness. Because it is very hard for you to make me believe your version like you easily fool other people who have no idea..

Er...ah...no....Fadix's correct point is that this is just the opposite. As a non-thinking Turk (to differentiate those who are able to step out of your self-made denialist box) you have and have domonstrated no understanding whatsoever of the horrible crimes commited by your nation in the past towards Armenians and you have no conception of how your actions here today are perpetuating Genocide by attempting to deny and conceal its existance. You claim that we are fooling others into believing a story while you cling to the most absurd beliefs claiming Armenians are somehow responsible for the misfortunes.....and then you claim to have some insite concerning Genocide!??!?!?! and you don't understand just how incredulous such a claim is....well I'll have to agree 100% with Fadix on this one - a clear indication of acute psychosis!

[imported_Fadix]

I am not playing the poor victim, and as far as I know, noone can play that better than Armenians like yourself. I am just telling you how rude you're. Your first response to my posts was my being a googler. And then I became a racist, and psychotic.. You can attack me as hard as you can, I am not changing masks and claiming that I am a victim.. That is your problem, your aggressiveness that I tried to point out..

and don't tell me that you give a sh!t to the horrible things happening today in the world today. you only care about your own sufferings, which makes you and people like you racists.. If you are human and don't want any other genocide to happen, then work for that cause.. And I think I am able to better judge this event because of my Turkishness. Because it is very hard for you to make me believe your version like you easily fool other people who have no idea..

As much as I feel for the many Armenian losses, I also feel sorry for my grandparents who had to leave their homes, and were killed by some Armenians.. I don't expect all Armenians to be good with me, I only hope some will see that not all Armenians were as innocent as you are told..

anyhow, you prove to everyone how open minded you're and yet question my attitude..

Idiot(as in ignorant)..., Here in Montreal we have a genocide monument for all the victims of genocides, half of it was pied by the Armenian community, the only community that spent money over it. We must be racist for carring only for ourselves.

Were your arse was sitting when Armenian communities around the world were organizing to stop the Dalfur crises and collecting money and goods for the victims?

The Armenian community is always the first community trying to pass resolution over crimes and genocides, while there are others that would only bother about theirs.

While Turkey had tried to kill the UN genocide reports, just because it contained a reference regarding the Armenians, the Armenians were always the first to pressurise to get crimes recognized.

Oh and another thing, you've just shown above that my accusations against you are founded and true. Ball games, this is what is all about for you, just shouting the term racism, just because I have used it. The next time use words, because they apply and not just to show you have something to say. You are a racist, because you believe that Turks from all peoples could not have commited genocide. You have no problem pooping, farting and ejaculating BS about said Armenian crimes, expending and expending them and even equating them with what Armenians went through. Beside your Turkishness, what other bases do you have to make a judgement here, Sir? I've read all major English and French language written works regarding the topic,(oh and adding that I have OCDized German essays and used a software translator to read them) many of them were works translated from Turkish(revisionist materials)... I can start posting the titles here and you would probably read most of those titles for the first time.

Mr. Idiot(again, as in ignorant, before you cry I am attacking you), Turks that know me won't even dare calling me a racist, since I don't even believe of the existance of races and consider ethnicity as a social construct, again, you probably won't comprehend what social construct imply. Had the Armenians commited a genocide, I would have accepted it without any difficulties, in fact, the first book i have ever read about the topic was a revisionist work supporting the theses that it was not a genocide. How many books supporting the genocide theses have you read? I probably have read folds more revisionist books you would read in your entire life.

As for the innocence of the Armenians, raising this again shows how a sick individual you really are. I guess those child injected morphin and poisoned and drown were guilty... or the countless numbers of Armenians fooled into believing they were recieving vaccin, that were poisoned insteed... or those sent the camps of Deir-Zor, Ras Ul-Ain, Bonzanti, Mamoura, Intili, Islahiye, Radjo, Katma, Karlik, Azaz, Akhterim, Mounboudji, Bab, Tefridje, Lale, Meskene, Sebil, Dipsi, Abouharar, Hamam, Sebka, Marat, Souvar, Hama, Homs and Kahdem... and then criminals and butchers sent to escort them, were guilty of anything.

Or yet, those Armenians used as slave labours to complet the Baghdad railroad, killed by quota, again and again... or the countless numbers of Armenian males in the prisons, while not a single was even released... all disapearing.... or those poets, writters, teachers etc... shut, butchered like sheeps, were all guilty...

Don't forget to try either Zyprexa or Risperidal, as your cases is not mild, so that you could expect anything from Neurontin.

[Tongue]

Nice coalition, two morons side by side, 1.5Million & Fadix...

Yes, and you are the intelligent one.

You should blame the extremists on your side maybe more than you blame the Turks..

Blame this, blame that, blame the Russians, blame the French, blame the extremists, blame dashnaks, blame everyone except the people who need to be blamed! Very interesting. Then again, you're denying the genocide so you obviously need to blame other for it.

And how do you think that even if the so-called Armenian Genocide is accepted, it would prevent others from happening?

This is like saying why do we have trials for murderers? How can it prevent others from murdering? If the person who commits a crime (a HUGE crime in our case) gets away with it and isn't held responsible, then it only motivates alike actions. Turkey planned the massacre of 1.5 million Armenians and was successful, yet it didn't pay for it. We can do the same.

[imported_Fadix]

And one other thing is that whether some Armenians are also responsible or not, it doesn't mean that innocent people deserve dying because of others' mistakes.. .What I meant in my previous post was that Armenians must also think about their actions as well.. I believe no nation can be totally innocent or guilty. I already expresses my sorrow, although you show no compassion for Turkish peoples' losses..

And it was a deportation, not genocide.. They were sent to other regions of the Ottoman Empire.. As, many Turks have been deported from where they had lived before throughout the Empire and had considerable losses in the meantime.. But, of course this is not a tragedy according to you..

So, the Turks were "deported"in the interior right? Can you give me any SINGLE example, in which Turks were not expulsed, but rather were prevented to leave and marched in the interior? Just simplifying this so that I don't overdose your brain with too much data for your to handle.

[imported_Fadix]

Fadix, I have no intention to read all those books that you've memorized, because I have a life unlike you.. But, I can see that reading didn't help you become a better person..

so, you're free to write "said Armenian crimes" claiming Armenians didn't kill a single person, and yet I have to accept your claims..I didn't hear a word from you that you are sorry for everyone who lost his/her life.. And when I don't accept your claims, I become Mr. Idiot, Mr. Googler, Mr. Racist,etc..

Also, what I meant in the previous post was a lot of Turks had to leave their home during that time.. According to an article I read sometime ago. About 60% of the population in Turkey (today's Turkey) in 1927 had come from other regions (formerly Ottoman lands)... And many of them killed, died in the process.. I am not saying this is Armenian's fault of course, they had nothing with what was happening in Balkans for instance.. But, the thing is I am not screaming like crazy for compensation, apology like you have been doing for such a long time..

good bye,

Nice try.

The fact that you take position regarding a topic you haven't studied much show us how trustfull you are.

That I have read that much doesn't mean I have no life and you have one, it simply means, that while some likes to go fishing or going to theatres, others like to visit libraries and read works.

Did Armenians kill Turks? This is totally IRRELEVENT, to the question regarding if in fact there was a genocide. You were the one being kissy and kissy with your pall that posted the crap about Armenians having killed over 500,000 Turks, while Ahmed Emin(a known Armenian hater and propagandizer publicist), who was a member of the Ittihadist and later a Kemalist, hasn't even advanced half of that number for the entire Muslim people that died because of Armenians(and his numbers weren't even those directly killed by Armenians)... yet, you consider such trash as the Belge collections as evidences, because you would rather take any crap that would make of the Armenians as agressors without even bothering checking if the informations are accurate.

Regarding the Muslim population. Those people had all the reparations of the world, those immigrants were relocated in the properties of the Armenian population that was sent to the butcherhouses. And again, I wanted you to present me a single cases, where the populkation was prevented to leave.

Which minority was oppening it's doors to the Muslim/Turkish refugees of the Balkans, when even the Turks didn't do so? Here a clue for you Sir.

“Presently when the other people murdered before our very eyes our fleeing wives and children, the Armenian soldiers who had enrolled in our army fought with a heroism that knows no higher degree. The officials whom the Armenians had put at the disposal of our government were the last ones leaving their posts when the cities that were threatened by the enemy were being evacuated. Their families were the ones which opened their doors to the fleeing citizens with the please. “Don't go away. Don't destroy your hearth. Let us live together until such time when the unhappy days are over.””(by Hamdullah Suphi, Ikdam, 17 December 1912)

While the Armenians were forcefully removed from their homes, the government was either distributting their homes to Muslims or selling them for a fraction of the price and filling their own pockets.

Those Muslims had at least the chance to be kicked out, Armenians had no such chances, they were restricted to leave the Empire, by doing everthing to destroy them and preventing them to escape their own fate.

[Hovik]

Helpneeded is still here??? He ran away from a discussion we were having in the Genocide News room earlier today swearing that he wasn't going to come back to this website becuase I had "pushed him to the other side" whatever the ____ he means by that... I guess he just dodges ones dialogue and jumps to the other over and over again...

[Hovik]

Well, why don't you go read the recent reports about Talaats "Black Book" that was presented to historians by his living relative. He details the numbers of Armenians in the empire at the time. Although the accuracy of these numbers are could be close to actual numbers, they have not yet been confirmed. However, they are much more close to realistic numbers than some of the falsities presented by your current Turkish government, and your NAZI historians like McCarthy. Start with this not only TURKISH source, but from the perp himself.

[Hovik]

another one for yah

Here is something new to you Mustafa, its called a source:

Now this is the second source I am submitting to you. I am sure you'll have a problem with it so fire away... nothing is ever good enough...HERE