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  • #41
    Originally posted by Behcet
    I took deep breath and realised that I'm a representative of my people and my nation.
    Yes...quite...

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    • #42
      My opinion is there can never be any relation with Turks. Armenian and Turkish interests are diametrically opposed, this is why we work against each other.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Pipoyan
        My opinion is there can never be any relation with Turks. Armenian and Turkish interests are diametrically opposed, this is why we work against each other.
        Very sad. I suggest you go out and make a Turkish friend - it will do your humanity good.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Behcet
          I am interested in your opinion. How do you think we can resolve it.
          Start by communcating

          Communication = Normalized Relations = Open borders

          We'll figure it out together from there...

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          • #45
            Originally posted by 1.5 million
            Very sad. I suggest you go out and make a Turkish friend - it will do your humanity good.
            When I was still 10 years old, my father taught me that Armenians do not go "making friends with Turks". This is my family, I am not going to be turning my back on them.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Pipoyan
              When I was still 10 years old, my father taught me that Armenians do not go "making friends with Turks". This is my family, I am not going to be turning my back on them.
              Very Sad. I really do hope your type of upbringing is in the minority among Armenians.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Hovik
                Start by communcating

                Communication = Normalized Relations = Open borders

                We'll figure it out together from there...

                Communication?


                Easier said then done Hovik.

                I read through the forum, you guys can't even communicate with each other. You guys can't normalise your own relations and be fair and polite to each other. And you expect to open communication with your #1 enemy?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Behcet
                  Communication?


                  Easier said then done Hovik.

                  I read through the forum, you guys can't even communicate with each other. You guys can't normalise your own relations and be fair and polite to each other. And you expect to open communication with your #1 enemy?
                  So?

                  Nothing is imposible is it? If your nations hero Ataturk (who Im certain was a Bulgarian) defeated 5/6 or whatever different nations after the Turks had lost their empire and fought continous wars from the Italian-Ottoman war over Libya in 1911 up until 1923. Then I dont think communication is out of the question.

                  Its a question of pride will Turkey let pride the better of them? Or will they try and reciprocate Armenias calls for relation with no preconditions.

                  Turkey cant say to Armenia first withdraw from Karabakh, then recognise Turkeys current borders, then stop trying to get Turkey to recognise the genocide (which will never happen as one Armenian once said to me "we will never give up, we will keep on trying till the ends of time").

                  This is not normal behavior. This stance of Turkey suggests that they dont want relations with Armenia, ever.

                  Behcet the outcome of the Azeri-Armenian conflict should have no bearings on Turkish-Armenian relations (or more specifically Turkey shouldnt get involved between Armenia and Azerbaijan - its a problem only between those two contries).

                  I cant speak on behalf of Armenians but if Turkey recognises the genocide then who can say? Who knows maybe Armenia wont ask for eastern Turkey(western Armenia) back?

                  Western Europe and the two Anglo nations of north America is unique because there isnt a strong base for nationalism amongst the general populace in these nations especially within governments. Turkish society needs to move on from nationalism to the type of post nationalist societies of western Europe and the USA & Canada.

                  (not that Im giving up Bulgarian nationalism )

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                  • #49
                    kazak -

                    If you haven't alrady recieved it I will take the time now to recognize your achievement and bestow upon you the honary "Turkish denialist basic course 101 graduation certificate" - you will have to apply directly to the Turkish MFA for the matching fountain pen set however.

                    BTW - using your contrived definition of genocide there has never been any such thing ever in history....except perhaps of Neandetal by Homo Sapiens...have a good day.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by kazak
                      First of all you should stop to say; “Turks should stop denying the Armenian Genocide and should apologize.". This brings up the question whether there was Genocide or not. I've seen through that all of you agree on the term "Genocide". Then Genocide: to destroy or wipe away a society on purpose because of religion, national and other causes.
                      OK - fine...use "holocaust" then...if you insist...

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