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Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by Lucin View PostWhat the-BLOODY-HELL-is this?
I guess some Turks, by spewing their kaka around here, have affected you so much… but please, for God’s sake stop the “we” talk…
The thread was not necessary, my mistake...
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
I have no problem with Armenians hating the nationalist and racist Turks, I'll join you on that one. But you guys don't seem to understand that generalizing an entire people makes them stand united against us. Don't push the liberal Turks into the same camp as the nationalists. Making more people hate us = Bad politics.
What we need is 'missionaries' to teach these people the Armenian language and traditions. They are hated even if they pose as Kurds and Turks, so if they're going to be hated anyways, they might as well practice their real culture and be Armenian.
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by ArmSurvival View PostI have no problem with Armenians hating the nationalist and racist Turks, I'll join you on that one. But you guys don't seem to understand that generalizing an entire people makes them stand united against us. Don't push the liberal Turks into the same camp as the nationalists. Making more people hate us = Bad politics.
What we need is 'missionaries' to teach these people the Armenian language and traditions. They are hated even if they pose as Kurds and Turks, so if they're going to be hated anyways, they might as well practice their real culture and be Armenian.
As for the missionaries, I don't think it would be a good idea, because no matter how much the Turkish government says that they treat Armenians fairly, Armenians and Turkey will never be treated equally or fairly, and thus, the missionaries would probably be disapproved.
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by sev_zeytun View PostWhy just "me" and "them"?
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by skhara View PostSome of us don't want any 'commonality' with sub-beasts. So keep it a personal preference instead of invoking any kind of 'we'. Oh and there is no 'hate'. Not on my part anyway, I mean I don't hate snakes for examples even if they do damage to me or loved ones -- just need to manage them and protect yourself to the best of your ability.
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by sev_zeytun View PostI think that they show the Turks that we are so similar in most aspects that it's almost impossible to tell the difference between us if you take away our religion and language.
Is your understanding of "ethnic identity," "culture" and "national mindset" so shallow that it makes it "almost impossible to tell the difference between" Armenians and *urks?
Can you sustain - with examples, as you advised Elia in another thread - your surrealistic statement? Thanks.
Originally posted by sev_zeytun View PostI'm sorry if you don't agree
Originally posted by sev_zeytun View Postbut I think that there needs to be some sort of acceptance for one another. Turks hate Amerians, Armenian's hate Turks. Where is this going to end up in the future? War? If Armenia fights with Turkey and loses then there might not be an Armenia. I love my counrty but I think that if there is no compromise then this is all going to go downhill.
Originally posted by sev_zeytun View PostNo one has changed my mind about anything
Originally posted by sev_zeytun View PostI just have the impression that if anymore hatred is spread between our counrty and theirs will lead to even worse things for Armenia. My family there doesn't even have a toilet, a refrigerator, or enough food to eat. There are not enough jobs And the government is very corrupt. I don't want things to get any worse over there. Armenian's in Armenia already have a tough time and Turkey and Azerbedjian hating us doesn't make things any better.
What makes you believe that if Armenians changed their perception of *urks, the latter will show less animosity and become more friendly???? History - of several centuries - suggests otherwise.
P.S. Please exclude me from the "we."
Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk," "*urkish" or *urkic" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotationsLast edited by Siamanto; 05-05-2007, 12:00 AM.What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by gizzy View PostI completely agree....From the way they look, I wouldnt have told the difference between these people and the turks...This video is a disgrace to turks...I
Her statement was not limited to Hidden Armenians, she meant all Armenians.
Originally posted by gizzy View PostI also want to add somthing....
I dont know if any of you realized turks dont have any "asian" looks even though they come from asia...most of them look middle eastern wondered why? I have my personaly explanation...It a know fact that they kept the children left from a war and made them soldiers, gave them turkish identity and tought them islam.... I personally think that the main reason of turks being obsessed with their "turkish blood" and "turkish nationality" is cause of these mixings...Thats why if you call a turk "gavur" in other words "infidel" its a big insult...Also I personally know some "fanatic turks" who are "obsessed" with being a turk and at the same time they have a non-turk family root...Therefore its like a defence mechanism for them to have "extra fanatic" turkishness...
In TEMPORARILY SO CALLED Turkey, Armenian, Greek or *urkish is not necessarily a genetic or racial denomination, the difference is of ethnic nature. *urks, not only have stolen the ancestral lands of the natives, they have also stolen the genetic heritage and physical appearance- as if to create the illusion of being the rightful owners of the stolen lands.
Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk," "*urkish" or *urkic" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotationsLast edited by Siamanto; 05-04-2007, 11:26 PM.What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.
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Re: Hidden "Armenians" in Turkey....
Originally posted by exfo View PostLets continue to hate Turks.
You can either hate a *urk - what those who were exposed to them do - use them as watchdogs or killers - that's how the US uses them - or use them as "punching bags" - i.e. Tęte de Turc - in street fairs - that's what the French did - etc.
You see, it's all about semiotics!
Note: I have chosen to auto censor the words "*urk," "*urkish" or *urkic" because it is commonly perceived as unpleasant and offending, evokes unpleasant emotions and imagery and is pregnant with immoral and evil connotationsLast edited by Siamanto; 05-05-2007, 12:01 AM.What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.
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