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  • Re: Religion and Atheism

    Originally posted by gkv View Post
    Karo jan, where do you get your "facts" from?

    i read in another thread that according to a forum member, "The first time NATO was used was after 9/11". And please take notice that this person was very assertive in claiming so.



    it seems this member doesn't even know his facts on contemporary history.


    would you trust him on french medieval times?

    what do you think of a general who would engage his troops on the battlefield without prior reconnaissance of the terrain and knowledge of the opponent's strengths?
    Can you even read what I wrote? I was talking about article 5.

    NATO is committed to the principle that an attack against one or more of its member is an attack against all." Article 5.

    The first time it was used was after 9/11
    I didn't think that it would be that hard to understand, it was a very basic English sentence were the it is referring to the article 5. Or was article 5 used before 9/11?

    My knowledge comes from books not from wiki.

    Depends on the general, his troops and the place and age they are fighting.

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    • Re: Religion and Atheism

      Originally posted by Armanen View Post
      Yes, Joan must have been crazy, I mean only crazy people with no military training can lead several thousand men to victory. Now I am being sarcastic.
      She is crazy because she hears voices in her heads or are you going to claim that hearing voices in your head is something normal?

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      • Re: Religion and Atheism

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Ah yes, the Hollywood revisionist histories are the best
        Everything that doesn't coincide with your world view is revision, a Western/Zionist conspiracy am I right?

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        • Re: Religion and Atheism

          Originally posted by Armanen View Post
          Robert E. Lee
          Rich southern that went to West Point, slave owner who would have lost them if he hadn't fought with the Confederacy.

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          • Re: Religion and Atheism

            Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
            Can you even read what I wrote? I was talking about article 5.


            I didn't think that it would be that hard to understand, it was a very basic English sentence were the it is referring to the article 5. Or was article 5 used before 9/11?

            My knowledge comes from books not from wiki.

            Depends on the general, his troops and the place and age they are fighting.
            For NATO, my mistake. I didn't read the whole conversation. There was room for misinterpretation.
            Getting back to Louis IX, i'd be interested in your sharing your knowledge about his divorce.

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            • Re: Religion and Atheism

              Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
              Everything that doesn't coincide with your world view is revision, a Western/Zionist conspiracy am I right?
              No, just things that don't make much sense. Especially when people today claim they are "evolved" and more intelligent than our ancestors when they have never read a book and their knowledge comes from sitting their butt down in front of the TV for half of their pathetic life. I'm not referring to you but the general population.
              Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-10-2011, 02:45 AM.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • Re: Religion and Atheism

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                No, just things that don't make much sense. Especially when people today claim they are "evolved" and more intelligent than our ancestors when they have never read a book and their knowledge comes from sitting their butt down in front of the TV for half of their pathetic life. I'm not referring to you but the general population.
                We aren't more evolved than our ancestors but we do have more knowledge because our knowledge is build upon their knowledge. The generation that came after us will built their knowledge upon ours and so on.

                The general population will always be uneducated it was so during the middle ages, classical ages, during the industrial revolution and so it is today.

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                • Re: Religion and Atheism

                  Originally posted by gkv View Post
                  For NATO, my mistake. I didn't read the whole conversation. There was room for misinterpretation.
                  Getting back to Louis IX, i'd be interested in your sharing your knowledge about his divorce.
                  confused him with one of his ancestors that xxxxed up so much because he couldn't get a child.
                  This is not much better, he led two Crusades that failed, cost the state so much money that he had to steal for the people and I mean steal not raise taxes but steal. he slaughtered a sect in the southern of France. so what did he do that was so good?

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                  • Re: Religion and Atheism

                    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                    We aren't more evolved than our ancestors but we do have more knowledge because our knowledge is build upon their knowledge. The generation that came after us will built their knowledge upon ours and so on.

                    The general population will always be uneducated it was so during the middle ages, classical ages, during the industrial revolution and so it is today.
                    WE don't have more knowledge. There is more knowledge in the world as a collective force which has accumulated over time but a lot of that knowledge is privatized (not accessible by the public).
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • Re: Religion and Atheism

                      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                      Ofcourse he did, show me one general that went to war that wasn't in his interest.
                      Perfect, then what's the point of you putting this 'little' 'corrupt', 'opportunist' 'selfish' leader who fought for his position as your avatar? Admit it that you sound more and more like Baliozian...

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                      It's just amazing to see how atheists relate their atheism to their big 'knowledge', 'intellectuality', 'intelligence' and 'higher education'... as if no believers can achieve those...

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