Religion and Atheism

[KanadaHye]

Re: Religion and Atheism

Here we go again with the anti-Armenian accusations. Yes, I was selected and educated with that very narrow goal in mind.

I'm sick and tired of people thinking that being a patriot means that you can never criticize or say anything negative (truth being irrelevant) about Armenia or any Armenians. If we pretend that there's nothing that can be improved upon then we will be a stagnant nation awaiting our demise.
If we try to systemically only spread information that paints Armenia and Armenians in a positive light, then what's the difference between that and propoganda?

I speak honestly, first and foremost. It's called integrity.

Where is the ROFLMAO emoticon? LOL

[KanadaHye]

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Reminded me of this cartoon:

And WTF is this xxxx? You're worse than the parrots in the media.

[KanadaHye]

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Actually it was Timur Lame that destroyed the Armenian nobility and what was left after that was a mere shadow of the past. If you look at Mkhitar Sparapet and David Bek you can see how nobility was ready to sell out the ordinary people to save their own skin. If they didn't protect there was no one left to tend to their lands, no one left to pay taxes etc. They didn't do it because they loved the people so much but because they needed the people.

That could be said about anything.... That's like saying "Your parents kept you around not because they loved you but they needed someone to cut the lawn or do the dishes."

[KarotheGreat]

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That could be said about anything.... That's like saying "Your parents kept you around not because they loved you but they needed someone to cut the lawn or do the dishes."

You are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love.

[KanadaHye]

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You are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love.

I don't disagree but are we to say that it's better to be ruled by strangers than your own people? Perhaps in the case of Armenians, it is.

[gkv]

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You are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love.

it appears you are strongly suggesting the person you have as avatar (who we may safely assume is a model to you) did the things he did because it was in his "best interest not because of kindness and love".

insightful. not about Sourp Vartan but about you.

[KarotheGreat]

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I don't disagree but are we to say that it's better to be ruled by strangers than your own people? Perhaps in the case of Armenians, it is.

Who is to say what is better, during the soviet era Armenians had the highest level of level ever. However does it mean that Armenians should abandon their independence? Hell no!

[gkv]

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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[KarotheGreat]

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it appears you are strongly suggesting the person you have as avatar (who we may safely assume is a model to you) did the things he did because it was in his "best interest not because of kindness and love".

insightful. not about Sourp Vartan but about you.

Ofcourse he did, show me one general that went to war that wasn't in his interest.

[gkv]

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Ofcourse he did, show me one general that went to war that wasn't in his interest.

If I am to trust the first line in your signature, I have to end my argument here.