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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostActually it was Timur Lame that destroyed the Armenian nobility and what was left after that was a mere shadow of the past. If you look at Mkhitar Sparapet and David Bek you can see how nobility was ready to sell out the ordinary people to save their own skin. If they didn't protect there was no one left to tend to their lands, no one left to pay taxes etc. They didn't do it because they loved the people so much but because they needed the people."Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X
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Originally posted by KanadaHye View PostThat could be said about anything.... That's like saying "Your parents kept you around not because they loved you but they needed someone to cut the lawn or do the dishes."
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostYou are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love."Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X
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Originally posted by KarotheGreat View PostYou are comparing now apples and oranges, you should look it at this way a maffia boss protects the ones that work on the street or else they will lose money and power. The nobility wasn't the power of the peasantry it was their ruler like in the rest of the world and their the nobility did things because it was in their best interest not because of kindness and love.
insightful. not about Sourp Vartan but about you.
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Originally posted by KanadaHye View PostI don't disagree but are we to say that it's better to be ruled by strangers than your own people? Perhaps in the case of Armenians, it is.
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
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Originally posted by gkv View Postit appears you are strongly suggesting the person you have as avatar (who we may safely assume is a model to you) did the things he did because it was in his "best interest not because of kindness and love".
insightful. not about Sourp Vartan but about you.
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