Religion and Atheism

[KanadaHye]

Re: Religion and Atheism

He didn't fight for self determination but for his rights he got as a Nakharar. The last thing he was thinking about was the ordinary people, he was to busy thinking about his own power and that of his allies.

You do realize that it was the noble houses that protected Armenians from invasions up until the Bolsheviks who abolished the Armenian noble class altogether just prior to the Soviet Unification. Everyone seems to forget that minor role which the Ottoman Turks had nothing to do with.

[KarotheGreat]

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You do realize that it was the noble houses that protected Armenians from invasions up until the Bolsheviks who abolished the Armenian noble class altogether just prior to the Soviet Unification. Everyone seems to forget that minor role which the Ottoman Turks had nothing to do with.

Actually it was Timur Lame that destroyed the Armenian nobility and what was left after that was a mere shadow of the past. If you look at Mkhitar Sparapet and David Bek you can see how nobility was ready to sell out the ordinary people to save their own skin. If they didn't protect there was no one left to tend to their lands, no one left to pay taxes etc. They didn't do it because they loved the people so much but because they needed the people.

[Siggie]

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You do realize that it was the noble houses that protected Armenians from invasions up until the Bolsheviks who abolished the Armenian noble class altogether just prior to the Soviet Unification. Everyone seems to forget that minor role which the Ottoman Turks had nothing to do with.

You're funny. If this was a discussion about a modern leader, you'd be the one insisting he's corrupt, that there are other things at play behind the scenes, and never trust the story fed to the masses. Yet now, you resist that there might be more to the popular story here.

[Armanen]

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I think rules created 2000 years ago should not be followed today. There is wisdom in some but others are so filled with BS that it isn't even funny. Marrying ones daughter, genocide of whole cities, killing non believers etc. Most Christians today are selective reading the bible and taking out things what works for them. I've got respect for that but I chose to be honest with myself if i can't accept the whole thing why select some parts of it.



Those parts come through evolution, because a society can not survive if they start killing each other. You will never see piranhas killing each other.

I still think those people are making links where they don't exist. Especially towards the Hellenic world. What is Christianity in its core? Accepting Jesus as savior and son of God.

Karo jan if you are as open minded and willing to learn and explore then please have a look here.


I am not asking you to reply back to this and continue what will shortly become a non ending debate = pointless debate.

[KarotheGreat]

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Karo jan if you are as open minded and willing to learn and explore then please have a look here.


I am not asking you to reply back to this and continue what will shortly become a non ending debate = pointless debate.

Actually his blog was one of the aspects that showed me what our religion was and helped me on too the way finding what fitted me.

[Armanen]

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Actually his blog was one of the aspects that showed me what our religion was and helped me on too the way finding what fitted me.

Well atheism was not what he intended but if that is what fits you then all I can say is enjoy.

[Siggie]

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Just do not become one of those militant atheists otherwise you will only radicalize the opposition.

I forgot to comment on this part of what you said...

Can you show me an example of what you'd consider a militant muslim or christian please?

[Siggie]

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I forgot to comment on this part of what you said...

Can you show me an example of what you'd consider a militant muslim or christian please?

Reminded me of this cartoon:

[KanadaHye]

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You're funny. If this was a discussion about a modern leader, you'd be the one insisting he's corrupt, that there are other things at play behind the scenes, and never trust the story fed to the masses. Yet now, you resist that there might be more to the popular story here.

Perhaps I'm not dumb to how much better off Armenians were before they were fu@ked by the British nobles who now "educate" so called "Armenians" like yourself in the West to speak against Armenian culture and protect Western interests.

[Siggie]

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Perhaps I'm not dumb to how much better off Armenians were before they were fu@ked by the British nobles who now "educate" so called "Armenians" like yourself in the West to speak against Armenian culture and protect Western interests.

Here we go again with the anti-Armenian accusations. Yes, I was selected and educated with that very narrow goal in mind.

I'm sick and tired of people thinking that being a patriot means that you can never criticize or say anything negative (truth being irrelevant) about Armenia or any Armenians. If we pretend that there's nothing that can be improved upon then we will be a stagnant nation awaiting our demise.
If we try to systemically only spread information that paints Armenia and Armenians in a positive light, then what's the difference between that and propoganda?

I speak honestly, first and foremost. It's called integrity.