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  • Re: Religion and Atheism

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    Your personal attacks keep amusing me.

    What did Louis do that wasn't in his interest as king? Was it his Crusade that was a disaster and cost the life of so many people and attacked an ally of Jerusalem? Or the fact that he divorced his wife because of his inferiority complexes and lost the half of his kingdom? The other example a crazy woman that was burned as a witch and heard voices in her head. Perfect examples, really. (if you haven't noticed I'm being sarcastic)
    Ah yes, the Hollywood revisionist histories are the best
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • Re: Religion and Atheism

      Originally posted by Sip View Post
      Maybe you can explain to Kanadahye what it means when I say "God wrote the Bible"
      People like you and me wrote the Bible. God's words, not his handwriting.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • Re: Religion and Atheism

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        People like you and me wrote the Bible. God's words, not his handwriting.
        There are 2 possibilities and there is no way you can get around this:

        1. Since we wrote the Bible and we can make mistakes, then the Bible is flawed.
        2. We wrote it down perfectly with 0 mistakes in which case it is the same as God having written the Bible.
        (note that most Christians really really really love to insist on #2 )
        this post = teh win.

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        • Re: Religion and Atheism

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          I forgot to comment on this part of what you said...

          Can you show me an example of what you'd consider a militant muslim or christian please?
          Pat robertson for the 'Christian' side, and mohammed omar aka mullah omar on the muslim side.
          For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
          to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



          http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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          • Re: Religion and Atheism

            Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
            Ofcourse he did, show me one general that went to war that wasn't in his interest.
            Robert E. Lee
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • Re: Religion and Atheism

              Originally posted by Sip View Post
              There are 2 possibilities and there is no way you can get around this:

              1. Since we wrote the Bible and we can make mistakes, then the Bible is flawed.
              2. We wrote it down perfectly with 0 mistakes in which case it is the same as God having written the Bible.
              (note that most Christians really really really love to insist on #2 )
              Truthfully, I haven't even read 95% of the Bible but I can say this. A lot of the quotes on the internet which claim to be from the bible are either a) not found in the bible or b) from the old testament (prior to Christ)

              Now, one can say that there is human error involved in describing the events during those times in history but a lot of the scripture has similar passages with regards to life written by different authors. By all means this doesn't make all of the accounts accurate but since a lot of people find that scripture relates to things in their own lives, that means that events during a different time in history can still be applied today.

              I'm not sure what number 2 really applies. Perhaps the authors were just bad secretaries and weren't very good at dictation or story telling? It's really irrelevant either way since people have found value in the book and have been able to relate it to their daily lives. We may live in a much different time period now but perhaps the more things change, the more some things stay the same.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • Re: Religion and Atheism

                Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                Pat robertson for the 'Christian' side, and mohammed omar aka mullah omar on the muslim side.
                Just some randoms from the media I can't stand...

                Bill O'Reilly... that biatch Ann Coulter.... oh.... can't stand that Feminazi Nancy Grace either.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • Re: Religion and Atheism

                  Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                  Your personal attacks keep amusing me.

                  What did Louis do that wasn't in his interest as king? Was it his Crusade that was a disaster and cost the life of so many people and attacked an ally of Jerusalem? Or the fact that he divorced his wife because of his inferiority complexes and lost the half of his kingdom? The other example a crazy woman that was burned as a witch and heard voices in her head. Perfect examples, really. (if you haven't noticed I'm being sarcastic)

                  Yes, Joan must have been crazy, I mean only crazy people with no military training can lead several thousand men to victory. Now I am being sarcastic.
                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                  • Re: Religion and Atheism

                    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                    Your personal attacks keep amusing me.

                    What did Louis do that wasn't in his interest as king? Was it his Crusade that was a disaster and cost the life of so many people and attacked an ally of Jerusalem? Or the fact that he divorced his wife because of his inferiority complexes and lost the half of his kingdom?
                    Karo jan, where do you get your "facts" from?

                    i read in another thread that according to a forum member, "The first time NATO was used was after 9/11". And please take notice that this person was very assertive in claiming so.



                    it seems this member doesn't even know his facts on contemporary history.


                    would you trust him on french medieval times?

                    what do you think of a general who would engage his troops on the battlefield without prior reconnaissance of the terrain and knowledge of the opponent's strengths?

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                    • Re: Religion and Atheism

                      Originally posted by Sip View Post
                      On an unrelated note, I know Siggie gives you a hard time for talking all fancy but I have to give you +1 on the use of exegesis. First time I have ever seen that word
                      which figures. in our field (i.e. computer science), most things are quite univocal.

                      hard time, not exactly. btw, i suspect that in her very own field, she rejects the writings of Jung as "non-scientific"...

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