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  • #111
    Re: Religion and Atheism

    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
    Probably because you can't interpret written words and automatically assume the meaning due to bias.

    Because I should have interpreted "get through your life on your own" as literally on my own without assistance from any person, natural or supernatural? In a discussion about atheism. Or should I have interpreted faith differently in the same discussion? Who would read "having faith in someone else's abilities will be your only solution" IN THIS THREAD and think you must mean doctors and firefighters?
    But no, you weren't understood because I'm biased, not because you were ambiguous and invited misunderstanding.
    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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    • #112
      Re: Religion and Atheism

      Originally posted by Siggie View Post
      Because I should have interpreted "get through your life on your own" as literally on my own without assistance from any person, natural or supernatural? In a discussion about atheism. Or should I have interpreted faith differently in the same discussion? Who would read "having faith in someone else's abilities will be your only solution" IN THIS THREAD and think you must mean doctors and firefighters?
      Interesting. Would you survive if you were left on an island on your own after birth? What knowledge would you have?
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • #113
        Re: Religion and Atheism

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        Interesting. Would you survive if you were left on an island on your own after birth? What knowledge would you have?
        Where is the island located?
        [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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        • #114
          Re: Religion and Atheism

          Originally posted by Siggie View Post
          Where is the island located?
          In the Society Islands of French Polynesia, 90 miles from Papeete and 15 miles from world renown Bora Bora.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #115
            Re: Religion and Atheism

            How long after birth?
            this post = teh win.

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            • #116
              Re: Religion and Atheism

              Originally posted by Sip View Post
              How long after birth?
              Old enough to crawl.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #117
                Re: Religion and Atheism

                Pascal's wager - Wikipedia
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager
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                • #118
                  Re: Religion and Atheism

                  Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager
                  That's a flawed argument (originally proposed as a joke even) and assumes God would appreciate that you "believed" in him just to cover your @ss. And if he's omniscient (as most religions purpose), then he'd know the "true" believers from those that are "believing" for gain.
                  I think if he did exist and was a benevolent god, then he'd understand that he just didn't provide enough evidence for me to believe. At least it's honest, which is more in line with his alleged teachings (or most of humanity's concept of morality).

                  Also, by this argument, you should believe in all the gods of the other religions too because what if you're wrong about them? You'd already be making the incorrect wager by only believing in the Christian god by this logic. Further, it's not really that there's nothing lost from believing in a false god... what about the types that fore go medical treatment for prayer? Aren't they seeing harm as a result of their belief?
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                  • #119
                    Re: Religion and Atheism

                    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                    That's a flawed argument (originally proposed as a joke even) and assumes God would appreciate that you "believed" in him just to cover your @ss.
                    I think if he did exist and was a benevolent god, then he'd understand that he just didn't provide enough evidence for me to believe. At least it's honest, which is more in line with his alleged teachings (or most of humanity's concept of morality).

                    Also, by this argument, you should believe in all the gods of the other religions too because what if you're wrong about them? You'd already be making the incorrect wager by only believing in the Christian god by this logic.
                    The Abrahamic religions all refer to the same God. Christ was believed to be the son of God by local Christians while J3ws rejected Christ and the freedoms he brought to the people who were under the influence of the Roman Empire. Muslims believe that Christ was a prophet and not the son of God. So the J3ws rejected Christ at the time of his existence and Muslims rejected Christ centuries after his existence. That basically sums up 2000 years of Middle Eastern theology in a nutshell.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • #120
                      Re: Religion and Atheism

                      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                      The Abrahamic religions all refer to the same God. Christ was believed to be the son of God by local Christians while J3ws rejected Christ and the freedoms he brought to the people who were under the influence of the Roman Empire. Muslims believe that Christ was a prophet and not the son of God. So the J3ws rejected Christ at the time of his existence and Muslims rejected Christ centuries after his existence. That basically sums up 2000 years of Middle Eastern theology in a nutshell.
                      Are there mutually exclusive gods today and in history?
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