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  • #111
    Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

    I agree with Tamar. Homosexuality is no longer a DSM category, rather it is one expression of human sexuality. Unfortunately, in cultures where every detail of one's life has to serve a larger ideology and be placed at the service of "big men", anything that doesn't fall in line is immediately denounced and called "unnatural", "foreign", etc. It's not just homosexuality that these guys are against. My sense is that they are in a time and place where they are feeling somewhat emasculated and are dreaming of some future situation that resembles some idealized past where men were men and women were women, etc... A situation where people didn't have to earn respect and deference, but rather were granted it implicitly because of what is between their legs, or because of how much muscle their menfolk can wield.

    I, too, wish you all the best and hope you can find a way to open up to your parents. I think the parental bond is a powerful one, and yes, parents can be surprisingly supportive and open minded.

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    • #112
      Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

      Lil, Moz means banana in Arabic... lol...

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      • #113
        Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

        Originally posted by lil View Post
        Moz & Retro, you have very strong views upon the matter of abortion and you are so cold hearted in your decision. You are both men and have no idea what it is like for women to deal with such issues, not only abortion and contraceptive but the mere allowance of choices. I can't believe how disgusting both your personalities are. who are you to tell me what my 'duty' is? its so disgusting that you say women are useless if they don't have babies. you can say the same thing about men. why don't we all just force 14 yr old girls to marry 30 yr old men so they can serve their 'duties' more efficiently...eliminating her opportunities for an education and a life for herself.
        and moz, you really need to check up on your definition of feminism. i have told you that before. feminism is about EQUALITY and not superiority. believing that men and women are equal doesn't turn someone lesbian. if you do know the actual meaning of feminism, your saying that men should have authority over women?
        It's about protecting and emphasising the traditional role of woman in society. No one is oppressing woman, that being said, woman are very important in strengthening our nation and our future generation. As I said every Armenian has duty to help/strengthen Armenian nation. Selective abortion is a deep problem in Armenia, for example the gender selective abortion. We need to do anything to increase our growth rate, and if it takes banning contraceptive, let it be, ends justify the means.

        haha, well except feminism usually turns into demonising men and characterising having a family and children as "backwards". Men yes have authority over women in the bigger decisions (finances, job, big decisions, etc) of course woman's input is often needed.

        Originally posted by Flamenkita View Post
        Mos, where are the links? Also, Sarkozy... Really? His own people detest him passionately. This is not an opinion that he's expressing on behalf of his country, but rather on behalf of himself or whatever political goal he has in the moment.

        Angela Merkel? Another superstar afaic. German legal scholars are very engaged in trying to reconcile a multicultural Europe while preserving local, individual, and public processes. Look up the work of Armin von Bogdandy if you are interested in learning about the process.

        As for David Cameron and the Brits? Multiculturalism is all fine and dandy as long as it's in the service of making Britain bigger and richer.

        Just because these "leaders" are making political statements that tickle the right-leaning segments of their voters doesn't mean that what they are saying carries any weight, or that it can and should be generalized to include what goes on in the rest of the world. Also, multiculturalism isn't this unchanging, monolithic thing that, once achieved, remains in place unchanged for eternity. It is a process. In the United States it is very much a process that changes and evolves, just like people change and evolve.
        No, the populace agrees with this sentiment and they are sick and tired of having their society ruined by it. Maybe US or Canada can have it because they are immigrant countries, but it's dangerous for nation-states like armenia.
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
        ---
        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        • #114
          Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

          The whole planet is overpopulated. The last thing we need is an increased birthrate anywhere! But the other thing is, Armenia cannot support the population it currently has. Why not make conditions such that people stop wanting to bolt out of there the first chance they get rather than trying to increase the population? Make it a place where productive, intelligent people can live freely and happily, and contribute to the growth and welfare of others rather than imposing these backward ideas that subjugate one portion of the population in favor of another.

          The nation-state is an artificial construct, and as soon as the constructs that support it or are supported by it start to disintegrate, it has no choice but to follow.

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          • #115
            Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

            You should have a look at this movie about North Korea: http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/4547...-Idea/overview

            And this one: http://www.kimjongiliathemovie.com/

            And this one: http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/3109...-Mind/overview

            This is what eventually happens when you go in the direction of traditionally-geared, male-dominated, globalism-hating nation states.

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            • #116
              Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

              Conditions are improving, especially given our tough situation. And there's been slow positive growth in recent years. But of course very slow growth.

              Nation-state is not artificial construct, especially compared to the multi-ethnic empires before it. Armenia will and has to remain a nation-state revolved around the Armenian people and nation.
              Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
              ---
              "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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              • #117
                Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                haha, well except feminism usually turns into demonising men and characterising having a family and children as "backwards". Men yes have authority over women in the bigger decisions (finances, job, big decisions, etc) of course woman's input is often needed.

                demonising men is a very big sterotype. kinda like you thinking there were no armenian lesbians before me. why are you more qualified than a woman?

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                • #118
                  Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                  Originally posted by Flamenkita View Post
                  Lil, Moz means banana in Arabic... lol...
                  haha. coincidence?

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                  • #119
                    Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                    Originally posted by lil View Post
                    haha. coincidence?
                    There's no such thing as a coincidence. You know what Freud said about slips of the tongue? If he were alive I'm sure he'd have plenty to say about slips of the keyboard, and he'd have an absolute field day with auto-correct!

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                    • #120
                      Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

                      If you love your mothers, read this book.
                      It's practically a pamphlet at 128 pages. It won't take you long at all and it would help provide some insight.

                      It's nothing to do with homosexuality, but since feminism is being mentioned as well as preserving "tradition"...

                      Not Becoming My Mother: and Other Things She Taught Me Along the Way: Reichl, Ruth: 9781594202162: Amazon.com: Books
                      http://www.amazon.com/Not-Becoming-My-Mother-Things/dp/1594202168
                      Not Becoming My Mother: and Other Things She Taught Me Along the Way [Reichl, Ruth] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Not Becoming My Mother: and Other Things She Taught Me Along the Way


                      [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                      -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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