Armenian lesbians/gays

[Mos]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

Well, then, y'all have a blast in that wonderfully backward Armenistan of yours. I'll be raising my kids to be citizens of the world and staying far away from chauvinists who are too afraid to seek meaning outside of their own little world.

Right and the radical feminism/multi-cultural ideals are so forward thinking. I guess that's why presidents in europe have said how multiculturalism has utterly failed. Sorry but "citizens of the world" is a laughable term...

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

The Armenian Church has always followed the money and the political power. It has far less to do with religion than with politics. I feel no duty to strengthen or participate in any nation that is based upon chauvinism and oppression. Also, an intact nation or identity is a myth. It is a wish. It is no more than present day anxiety projected onto the past. I really don't know many Armenians who would be willing to sign on to an agenda that takes away some basic individual rights and privileges. Part of what has gone wrong with Armenian identity is that it has been presented to us as a set of obligations. But the feeling of being obligated only goes so far and then stops to be compelling enough to make sacrifices.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

Mos, you should stop reading neo-Nazi papers and blogs and start getting your information from more reputable sources. I'm surprised you haven't started up with the antisemitism yet. Isn't that also part of this agenda?

[Mos]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

The Armenian Church has always followed the money and the political power. It has far less to do with religion than with politics. I feel no duty to strengthen or participate in any nation that is based upon chauvinism and oppression. Also, an intact nation or identity is a myth. It is a wish. It is no more than present day anxiety projected onto the past. I really don't know many Armenians who would be willing to sign on to an agenda that takes away some basic individual rights and privileges. Part of what has gone wrong with Armenian identity is that it has been presented to us as a set of obligations. But the feeling of being obligated only goes so far and then stops to be compelling enough to make sacrifices.

So Armenia nation is based on chauvinism and oppression? You sound like a Turk. If an intact identity was a myth, we'd all be speaking Turkish praying to Mecca. And, there's no agenda of taking away individual rights, that's preposterous. In being Armenian and considering yourself as part of Armenian nation, you have a natural obligation to do what's best to strengthen the Armenian nation. We are not a nation of 50 million but a nation of under 10 million. So this obligation just becomes more important.

[Mos]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

Mos, you should stop reading neo-Nazi papers and blogs and start getting your information from more reputable sources. I'm surprised you haven't started up with the antisemitism yet. Isn't that also part of this agenda?

I really don't appreciate the name calling. And calling me a Nazi is rather offensive to me given the sacrifices my relatives had to give in fighting the actual Nazis. What I'm saying has nothing to with Nazism, it's just a form of character assassination when you're out of substance.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

I would love to see the full transcripts of the statements by the European statesmen who have said multiculturalism has failed, in their original languages where possible. Folks with narrow agendas are famous for taking parts of statements out of context and presenting them as truth.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

You do plenty to assassinate your own character. You don't need my help.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

I feel no obligation to express my national identity according to your definitions.

[Flamenkita]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

You don't get to define my national identity. You don't get to dominate the discourse on the Armenian character. It's really that simple. As soon as someone starts saying their way or their interpretation is the only way, I feel compelled to reject it.

[Mos]

Re: Armenian lesbians/gays

French President Nicolas Sarkozy declared multiculturalism a failed concept and called for a renewed focus on France's "identity" when he appeared on TV Thursday evening to answer questions from French citizens.

"This [multicultural] approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, west of Berlin, yesterday.

David Cameron has criticised "state multiculturalism" in his first speech as prime minister on radicalisation and the causes of terrorism.

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multi-culturalism, radical feminism, ultra-liberal ideas of the West are not and never have been part of Armenian identity, nation, or society.