Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Who decides what the rational or optimal decisions are? What's right for one person may not be for another.

This is science... You wouldn't use a subjective case.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

This is science... You wouldn't use a subjective case.

Again, there is no way to measure what you claim is measurable. You can create tests but the criteria and results are judged by someone else.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Again, there is no way to measure what you claim is measurable. You can create tests but the criteria and results are judged by someone else.

Or you just don't understand what I'm explaining. I even gave you a sample study.

[levon]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Comment on the content of my post, not me personally.

P.S. You accuse me of being biased, but you have this stereotype you keep trying to ascribe to me that doesn't fit, but you just keep at it... For instance, you assumed I'm a liberal. I'm actually registered as a Republican and identify Libertarian on most issues. That's why I recommended that you actually take a few moments to get to know me before you hate me and lash out at me based on qualities you ascribed to me in the first place.
I never made any prescriptive statement about what women ought to do.

Wow, where did that come from. Read my post again, then read what it was replying to. Then do the whole thing again and see whether any of my post had anything at all to do with what you say women should do

And you are biased. All women are biased, whether republican, liberal or liberterian. Whether they live in the west or in a traditional society. The only difference is the degree of bias, which issues their bias affects the most, and how the bias is expressed.

And P.S. You seem to be biased toward the fact that abuse is a one way relationship going from men to women.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Or you just don't understand what I'm explaining. I even gave you a sample study.

I just looked at it... what does this have to do with anything? You can set a gauntlet up for someone and they won't get out of it without mistakes the first time because they haven't studied it. Logic is difficult to understand whether it's computer programming or electronic logic gates because the human mind isn't playing chess at every thought.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Wow, where did that come from. Read my post again, then read what it was replying to. Then do the whole thing again and see whether any of my post had anything at all to do with what you say women should do

And you are biased. All women are biased, whether republican, liberal or liberterian. Whether they live in the west or in a traditional society. The only difference is the degree of bias, which issues their bias affects the most, and how the bias is expressed.

And P.S. You seem to be biased toward the fact that abuse is a one way relationship going from men to women.

It wasn't exclusively in response to that post. It just seems that you made up your mind about me primarily based on the following: 1) I'm a woman 2) an academic 3) live in the US

Your statement didn't even make sense because of the poor grammatical structure. I assume you're saying you didn't expect me to cite anything that would suggest women shouldn't have sex before marriage? This wasn't about me at all. Kanada made a statement and I asked him to support it. That's all. Then you jumped in to point out that I'm a western academic.

And no, I do realize that abuse can go both ways. That's what I mean about assumptions.

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I just looked at it... what does this have to do with anything? You can set a gauntlet up for someone and they won't get out of it without mistakes the first time because they haven't studied it. Logic is difficult to understand whether it's computer programming or electronic logic gates because the human mind isn't playing chess at every thought.

The logical thing to do would be to seek disconfirming evidence in order to test whether the statement is correct. But, overwhelmingly, people don't do that. They instead look only for confirming information. Is that not an example of how research can show people aren't optimal reasoners/decision makers? It's exactly what you said was impossible.

Here are some books (which discuss research) about irrationality of people:
"Mistakes Were Made, But Not By Me" by Carol Tavris
"Predictably Irrational" by Dan Airely
"Inevitable Illusions" by Massimo Piattelli-Palmarini
"Bozo Sapiens" by Michael & Ellen Kaplan

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

The logical thing to do would be to seek disconfirming evidence in order to test whether the statement is correct. But, overwhelmingly, people don't do that. They instead look only for confirming information. Is that not an example of how research can show people aren't optimal reasoners/decision makers? It's exactly what you said was impossible.

Once the person understands the logic, they will get it right next time it's posed to them.... which is why there is a process called learning.

[gkv]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

may i suggest this reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_from_Underground

[Siggie]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

Once the person understands the logic, they will get it right next time it's posed to them.... which is why there is a process called learning.

Not always. Seriously, if you're interested, check out any one of those books.