Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

[Anonymouse]

Re: Armenians and sex: what's your opinion?

I think what you speak of are outdated traditions. This was paramount with older generation, for "times they are a-changin." We live a contemporary and open society with new perspectives and different values. If anything, it seems like it hit the other extreme. Now everyone openly talks about sex with their friends and therapists, has sex left and right and goes on talk shows. I don't live in a concentrated Armenian community, but from what I hear many young Armenians have abandoned that foolish "ideology."

I think this somewhat captures the essence of things.

Traditionally, Armenian society has been very much influenced (aside from the Christian religion) by the surrounding Muslim marauders and their very repressive lifestyle that comes with Islam. So over centuries these repressive notions have permeated Armenian consciousness and have festered until now they are exposed to the so-called "Western world" with its so-called ideals of "sexual liberation."

I think that all Armenian parents should be open about sexuality with their children because I think far too often there is a certain pervasive rigidity about sexuality that has pervaded among our community. With that being said, do not be fooled that more Armenians are "open to sex" because they happen to be in America. The fact that you see girls dressed like sluts or whores or guys and girls engaging in endless promiscuous sex and spreading STDs does not mean they are embracing a sort of sexual openness. They are embracing a sexual perversion and fanaticism, not openness, or what is properly referred to as nymphomania and satyriasis.

I really like how Foucault tangled this topic in "A History of Sexuality." He effectively demolished the modern myth of the liberation of sexuality from the shackles of victorian repression. He rightly points out that far from being silent about sex, modern man cannot shut up about it, and only in our culture are therapists handsomely paid to listen to people talk about their sex lives. He states, "What is peculiar to modern societies, in fact, is not that they consigned sex to a shadow existence, but that they dedicated themselves to speaking of it ad infinitum, while exploiting it as the secret."

[Sip]

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I don't usually go on forums or anything cuz i don't have time, but now I do so I wanna bring up some issues in our community.

There are many armenians that are freaked out about sex. what i mean by this is that especially girls are taught from young age that this is something bad and horrible. what parents don't realize is that this affects females psychologically and causes many problems in their life later on. I think that the num 1 reason y there are so many unhappy armenian couples is because of sex issues. im not saying that armenians should be xxxxs like others but they should have an open mind and an education about sex. It seems like armenian guys are on the wagon with the rest of the world with the knowledge and experience of sex but the girls shut out of that world. opinions?

I completely agree. A lot of the "traditional" views on sex is that hey, you have to go buy a car without getting to test drive it and also without ever having driven anything before in your life and on top of that, you are stuck with that car until the rest of your life

... but the car is "pure" when you do get it.

[RareChik]

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Does everyone always have to insult each other? Is it possible to talk to one another without getting into an argument.

I'm not even going to respond to azad's comment because he's probably not even mature enough to be talking about this. I guess he doesn't know what a conversation is. I'm not going to stoop down to his level and insult him.

[Anonymouse]

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The issue that you are disoriented with is NOT about sex. It is about dating openly and having partners before marriage and be accepted by your parents and the Armenian community in general. The sex part you can get it with or without the consent or knowledge of the people that you don’t want to disappoint. My question to you will be ... how much of the none traditional Armenian values are YOU ready to accept? Why tackle the concept of only sexuality pre marriage and not the very trendy single parent society that is fashionable these days? Will you have a problem with your mother go to the bars with her girlfriends once a week? What if your dad likes to visit Vegas once a month and the “what goes in vegas stays there”. How much are you ready to flex to what the latest media trend is shaping the family structures in the West? You are not the only age group that is under pressure, you should accept the pressure and the needs of your parents to...they don’t need to sacrifice for you either. You should ask those questions first before you banal sex question.

[One-Way]

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what i mean is that when the girls think that it's something so horrible, and that's embedded in their mind, later on in life even if they are married, they don't enjoy sex or in a relationship(not married), they don't openly talk about it with their partners because theyre embarrassed. Also, you don't see armenian guys wait until marriage but it's mandatory for the girl to wait. There's conflict there because if ur in a relationship for a long time then it's unnatural to not have sex for years, especially if the guy is not a virgin, i dont think hes gna wanna wait that long. Here comes the problem where they go and cheat in the relationship. And wat do you mean wen you say they make horrible decisions and regret it? Also, if youve been in a long term relationship and have no plans to get married soon then its hard not to have sex...and this creates another problem of armenian couples rushing into marriage for sex

Firstly, I know many men who are willing to wait.

Second, if a man doesn't respect the woman waiting for marriage or vice versa, that relationship is off to a bad start.

I think our generation of Armenians are in the process of throwing down everything Armenians have built over the years. Need I bring up Kim Kardashian? What kind of example does she set for future Armenian sluts that may follow?

[RareChik]

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Firstly, I know many men who are willing to wait.

Second, if a man doesn't respect the woman waiting for marriage or vice versa, that relationship is off to a bad start.

I think our generation of Armenians are in the process of throwing down everything Armenians have built over the years. Need I bring up Kim Kardashian? What kind of example does she set for future Armenian sluts that may follow?

That would be great if every armenian couple waited...but the reality is not that...reality is that most guys go xxxx girls everyday(there are exceptions)....and sex is somethin natural...If every Armenian guy and girl waited til marriage then that would be awsome...I have no problem with that...and the ones that didnt then thats their business...but the fact is that the GUYS dont wait...What I bring up as the issue is that the girl cant but the guy can ...and thats accepted in our culture...Either the guys need to stop xxxxin everyone or the "need to be virgin or else ur a xxxxx" lable needs to be put off

oh and I cant say nethin about Kim...cuz thats her choice to put her xxxx out there and date a black guy...and she's only half armenian. there are always exceptions...and I dont think that sex education and teaching ppl about emotional consequences and values, and not telling women that unless ur a virgin then ur a xxxxx is gna turn them into xxxxxs

[One-Way]

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Half Armenian, yeah, might as well mention she considers herself Turkish. Fact is her father was a very notable Armenian lawyer and her last name is Armenian. That alone puts down anything an Armenian is worth for.

You're stereotyping guys way too much; whether Armenian guys do wait or not, you're generalizing. From what I have seen and I know many who will agree with me; Armenian girls are far worse than Armenian guys.

Basically, you're not asking about Armenians and sex -- what you're asking is why can a guy have sex and be considered "cool" but when a girl does it, she's a slut.

[RareChik]

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my question and this post discusses all aspects...I am not stereotyping guys too much...like i said there r exceptions...but if u live in glendale NH, hollywood, surroundin areas(which u do) u no how it is...I dont know if u do...depending on ur age and experince socializing with older ppl (in 20s or late teens)....How are armenian girls worse?
Would u be okay with the fact that ur son will have the mentality that he can sleep with whoever he wants but an armenian girl HAS to b a virgin or that ur daughter is gna be afraid to talk abot sex or expereince it if shes ina long term relationship?

[One-Way]

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Like I said, you seem mad that girls can't sleep around because they'll be judged as sluts; whereas it's okay for a guy.

[Anonymouse]

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All this talk about sex is just missing the point.

If people want to go around and sleep with a bunch of people, girl or guy, then they expose themselves to all sorts of STDs out there.

Forget about HIV/AIDS, that isn't as taboo anymore, or genital warts. The initial doesn't kill with modern medicine (look at Magic Johnson) and the latter can be eradicated, but what about herpes? That's like luggage till the rest of your life and need I remind folks that 67 million people in America carry herpes? That's 1 in 4. So be promiscuous at your own risk.