Iranian-Armenian relations

[haysip]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The RoA and all other Armenian entities on the planet have no land claims on the IRI.

that's because all the other neighbors are enemies and they dont wanna ruin the relationsihp with Iran

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

1. There is a Muslim Armenian group on Facebook - talk to them; I don't really know how they live or what they think. If it's that important to you, make friends with them and get info.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15239251790
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16699228687

Lol, Muslim Armenians, there are no such people (except Hemshin people but they are very disconnected from real Armenians) no sensible Armenian family would accept a Muslim and you would have a really hard time being accepted in Armenia.

2. It's hard to control what faith your kids choose anyway - or if they even really believe it - kids tend to do their own thing anyway.

Well if Armenian kids choose Islam, their family will disown them.

3. Both Armenians & Iranians have had different faiths throughout history. (Zoroastrianism / Paganism / Led Zeppelin.)

Armenia is oldest Christian nation in the world. Our Armenian identity is heavily based on our Christian heritage - most of our culture stems from our Christian roots and church.

5. There are some forms of Christianity to avoid and some forms of Islam to avoid (it applies to all faiths). Muslims are not a monolithic group - for examples, I would much prefer my own child to be a Christian or Zoroastrian than a Wahabi (Saudi-style Muslim). I would much rather have my child be a Shia muslim than a Zionist-Christian.

You rather your child be a normal Shia muslim or normal christian?

6. Who people choose to marry is a personal choice: It's not up to me or you Mos. In the end, it's really only important that they have loving and nurturing homes for their kids and a good life. If they're happy, they're happy. (What should we do? Burn a big "B" on the foreheads of Buddhist Armenians?)

Sure they can marry whoever they want - just if they marry Muslim they won't be accepted by their family or their country.

7. Video of Muslim Armenians of Persian Stock living near the Black Sea since antiquity - they seem pretty normal to me.

They are very disconnected from Armenians, and not many associate themselves with Armenians actually. Armenian Christianity is key to the Armenian identity - without it you aren't really Armenian.

[haysip]

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They are very disconnected from Armenians, and not many associate themselves with Armenians actually. Armenian Christianity is key to the Armenian identity - without it you aren't really Armenian.

so the Armenian race started at 301 AD?

[Mos]

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so the Armenian race started at 301 AD?

Did I say that? Read carefully before posting.

I said our culture and our identity is greatly shaped by our Christian identity - with our adoption of Christianity and subsequently being surrounded by Muslim powers, it was even more imperative to stay true to our faith, and till today being Armenian is contingent on being Christian.

[haysip]

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so there are 2 kinds of Armenian Christians, one is the Armenian apostolic, and the other is the Armenian Kilikio church. And then there are the Hamsheni Armenians(muslim). Which one is the real Armenian?

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

so there are 2 kinds of Armenian Christians, one is the Armenian apostolic, and the other is the Armenian Kilikio church. And then there are the Hamsheni Armenians(muslim). Which one is the real Armenian?

As I said, the Hemshin people are very disconnected from real Armenians, they don't even consider themselves Armenians. Sure by roots there are Armenian, they are not the same as the other Christian Armenians. Yes the Christian Armenians are more Armenian than the Hemshin people.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

There is One Holy Apostolic Armenian Church, the Holy See of Cilicia is subordinate to the Mother See of Etchmiadzin.

[Eddo211]

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Happy Persian New Year 1390 to all Iranians at home and abroad.

Nowruz marks the first day of spring and the beginning of the year in Iranian calendar. It is celebrated on the day of the astronomical vernal equinox, which usually occurs on March 21 or the previous/following day depending on where it is observed. As well as being a Zoroastrian holiday and having significance amongst the Zoroastrian ancestors of modern Iranians, the same time is celebrated in parts of the South Asian sub-continent as the new year. The moment the Sun crosses the celestial equator and equalizes night and day is calculated exactly every year and Iranian families gather together to observe the rituals.

Originally being a Zoroastrian festival, and the holiest of them all, Nowruz is believed to have been invented by Zoroaster himself, although there is no clear date of origin. Since the Achaemenid era the official year has begun with the New Day when the Sun leaves the zodiac of Pisces and enters the zodiacal sign of Aries, signifying the Spring Equinox.

The xxxish festival of Purim is probably adopted from the Persian New Year.[8] It is also a holy day for Sufis, Ismailis, Alawites, Alevis, and adherents of the Bahá'í Faith.

The term Nowruz in writing, first appeared in Persian records in the 2nd century AD, but it was also an important day during the time of the Achaemenids (c. 648-330 BC), where kings from different nations under the Persian empire used to bring gifts to the Emperor, also called King of Kings (Shahanshah), of Persia on Nowruz. The significance of Nowruz in the Achaemenid empire was such that the great Persian king Cambyses II's appointing as the king of Babylon was legitimized only after his participation in the New Year festival (Nowruz).

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/170949.html

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

In the interest, of furthering Armenian/Iranian relations: I want to ask three questions of everyone, except Mos:

1. As an Armenian, are you comfortable serving on the front lines of a war with Mos?
2. Would you trust Armenia's military secrets to Mos?
3. Could you trust Mos to handle Armenia's diplomatic relations?

Do you have proofs that everyday Israelis are actively supporting Azerbaijan? You really think Israel supports Azerbaijan because they like Azeris? Israel will develop its relations with Azerbaijan. It's all geopolitical manoeuvring - don't turn this into a Israeli-Azeri love affair.

Parskahyes apparently have 2 allegiances, Armenia and Iran.

Go pray towards Mecca and shout 'allahu akbar'

There are conspiracy theories for everything - Saying that J3ws are responsible for the Genocide of Armenians is absurd and has no legitimate historic backing, maybe a couple of fringe historians here and there that have an anti-Semitic agenda.

Religious J3ws spit on everybody who is not a religious J3w. They don't specifically target Armenians.

no, illham aliyev could pass as an Armenian actually.

what's wrong with xxxs? Don't be anti-Semitic now...

The carnage in Sabra and Shatila was committed directly by the Christian groups .... I'm rebutting this hysteria of victimizing the Palestinians and demonizing the Israelis. Looking at pictures of dead Palestinian children making idiotic conclusions without looking at the facts.

We should severly limit the influx of people from muslim countries such as Iran. We don't need our great country to turn into a criminal haven.

Liberated women threaten in assimilation and because of that attract people like the Persian hooligans to fill up Yerevan.

Yes the Christian Armenians are more Armenian than the Hemshin people.

Judaism has not done what Islam has done to the Middle east.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Who are you to ask those questions? Why you keep assassinating my character?