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  • #401
    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
    In the interest, of furthering Armenian/Iranian relations: I want to ask three questions of everyone, except Mos:

    1. As an Armenian, are you comfortable serving on the front lines of a war with Mos?
    2. Would you trust Armenia's military secrets to Mos?
    3. Could you trust Mos to handle Armenia's diplomatic relations?
    1. Yes....war is the only time you will see Armenian unity
    2. only up to his level of clearance held and been cleared for.
    3. Absolutely not.
    B0zkurt Hunter

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    • #402
      Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

      Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
      1. Yes....war is the only time you will see Armenian unity
      2. only up to his level of clearance held and been cleared for.
      3. Absolutely not.
      Endorsing under this, too.

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      • #403
        Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

        Tell me one anti-Armenian thing I've said. Just because I look at politics in a pragmatic view and under the view of 'realpolitik' doesn't make me an enemy to my country. I love my country, people, and culture - and will proudly serve it in any sphere when the time comes. I'm bound to it only, not any second country, like some other Armenians are. Persopolis, you talk like you are an Armenian, being a non-Armenian, you have no authority to tell me my relationship to my nation.
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
        ---
        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        • #404
          Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          Tell me one anti-Armenian thing I've said. Just because I look at politics in a pragmatic view and under the view of 'realpolitik' doesn't make me an enemy to my country. I love my country, people, and culture - and will proudly serve it in any sphere when the time comes. I'm bound to it only, not any second country, like some other Armenians are. Persopolis, you talk like you are an Armenian, being a non-Armenian, you have no authority to tell me my relationship to my nation.
          You're not anti-Armenian, but your view of politics is dangerously naive. Your theory that nations act in self-interest is too simple, and that is what you seem to use in all your arguments. Actions are always in the interest of someone/some group, but more often than not, at least in larger nations, these are not the interests of the general civilian population, but rather a group of people who aim to profit directly from these actions. Then, other times nations do act in self-interest, and yet even more times, they act in the name of friendship that may have no direct or indirect benefit.
          Your "realpolitik" is simply "naivepolitik"

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          • #405
            Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

            Originally posted by levon View Post
            You're not anti-Armenian, but your view of politics is dangerously naive. Your theory that nations act in self-interest is too simple, and that is what you seem to use in all your arguments. Actions are always in the interest of someone/some group, but more often than not, at least in larger nations, these are not the interests of the general civilian population, but rather a group of people who aim to profit directly from these actions. Then, other times nations do act in self-interest, and yet even more times, they act in the name of friendship that may have no direct or indirect benefit.
            Your "realpolitik" is simply "naivepolitik"
            When I refer to self-interest, I refer to the notion of countries pursuing relations for some gain, let that be for some lobby group or oligarchs, in essence it's whoever is running the show in that given country. For example, US is a perfect example, they support dictatorships that favour them economically, while they pressure and invade countries on the grounds of "freedom" or "democracy" when really it's done so for economic position and gain. 'Realpolitik' is actually a real term that describes this notion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik). It also naive to think that countries act based off of principles such as "democracy" or some eternal "friendship". What keeps the world rolling? Economy of course - fuelled by natural resources such as oil and gas. Countries are perpetually positioning themselves to get ahead in this economic race and be above their competitors and ensure their country's superiority. It's the survival of the fittest at play.
            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
            ---
            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            • #406
              Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

              Ilham Aliyev and Serzh Sargsyan to celebrate Novruz together

              yerkir.am
              17:48 - 18.03.2011

              Ilham Aliyev and Serzh Sargsyan are to join other regional presidents
              at Novruz celebrations in Tehran, Iranian media say.

              The attendance of the presidents of Turkmenistan, Tajikistan,
              Afghanistan, Armenia and Azerbaijan has been confirmed, according to
              Iran's Mehr news.

              The spring holiday festivities will be hosted by Iranian President
              Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

              A high-ranking delegation from Qatar and the foreign minister of Oman
              are also to attend the celebrations.

              The Novruz spring holiday, known in Persian as Nowruz, begins during
              the night of 20-21 March.

              http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg365483.html
              Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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              • #407
                Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                Originally posted by haysip View Post
                Iran means Aryan land
                Ireland also means Aryan land
                England means land of Angh(Vulture in English)
                Armenia - Land of Aryan men
                Hay - superior to others
                Where did you get this BS from? Do you know the history of those countries and how their names evolved. For example Ireland is called Éire in Irish that in itself is derived from an ancient-Irish word called Ériu (a Gaellic goddess) so this alone proves that your little Aryan theory is worth nothing. Where did you even get the idea that England could ever mean land of the Aryans? Anglia, have you ever heard of that word?

                Israel won't do sh!t for Armenia except invade the hell out of it. Israelis today are descendants of the Khazars that are still angry for what Russia did to them eons ago. That's how fu@ked up these people are and they are also after Armenian land so as long as Armenians kiss the ground they walk on, they will pull the soil out from underneath Armenian feet.

                They sit there and make all this crap up just so they can claim rights to land.
                I never said anywhere that Israel would do something for Armenia, I said we could learn something and apply it to our problem. The one that can learn and adapt he fastest is the one that will survive in the end.
                No one cares where they come from, the only thing that matters is they are the ones with the power and they will stay there until someone with more power comes. That's how it works, history means zero in politics the only thing that really matters is power. If you want something you have to grab it and then see if you had a reason to grab it or not.
                Last edited by KarotheGreat; 03-20-2011, 09:23 AM.

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                • #408
                  Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                  Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                  Where did you get this BS from? Do you know the history of those countries and how their names evolved. For example Ireland is called Éire in Irish that in itself is derived from an ancient-Irish word called Ériu (a Gaellic goddess) so this alone proves that your little Aryan theory is worth nothing. Where did you even get the idea that England could ever mean land of the Aryans? Anglia, have you ever heard of that word?
                  And what you state was created by the Brits so your theory isn't worth much either. The word "IRE" means anger or resentment.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #409
                    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    And what you state was created by the Brits so your theory isn't worth much either. The word "IRE" means anger or resentment.
                    I think I will trust the Irish and their version how they got their name against some one that wants to connect everything to Aryans and then calls conquering not Aryan, while history shows that every where the Indo-Europeans went they conquered the "original" population. He loves to make it sound like the Aryans were some kind of peace loving people that didn't do anything wrong.

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                    • #410
                      Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                      I think I will trust the Irish and their version how they got their name against some one that wants to connect everything to Aryans and then calls conquering not Aryan, while history shows that every where the Indo-Europeans went they conquered the "original" population. He loves to make it sound like the Aryans were some kind of peace loving people that didn't do anything wrong.
                      Well, interesting enough, I suppose you can claim Latin is an Indo-European language but it is Italic stemming from the Roman Empire.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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