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  • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    see, what happens from these types of arguments is that the Turks win. Put emotions aside, and look at politics from a mature point of view. we get back to these quarrels once the bigger threat has been taken out. That's all i'm saying. we don't have to love eachother, but right now we've got a common interest and bigger fish to fry. we'll get back to fighting e/o once our common enemy is taken out. now is not the time for that.

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    • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

      The Turkish elite, across its civilian and military, secular and Islamist divisions, is unanimous in rejecting the foundation of a national homeland for the Kurds in northern Iraq because it would provide inspiration for Turkey’s 15 million Kurds. This in turn would threaten a split of the Turkish state, which has been in an armed conflict against the Kurdish Labor Party (PKK) since 1983. Moreover, Turkey – one of the most crucial Sunni states in the Middle East – fears the emergence of an oil-rich Shiite state in southern Iraq allied to Iran, which could upset the balance of power in the region in Iran’s favor.

      Source: http://www.arabinsight.org/aiarticles/175.pdf

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      • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

        Originally posted by kurdman View Post
        Yeah yeah whatever, I'm not really bothered by having not having ties with Armenia, as long as our Armenian minority is happy I'm alright with that.
        what Armenian minority? Armenians were either butchered or forced out.
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
        ---
        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          what Armenian minority? Armenians were either butchered or forced out.
          Hey, kid, I told you before, not every Kurd lives in North Kurdistan, and not every Kurd took part in whatever happened, ok? there are Armenians living in Duhok and Ainkawa of Southern Kurdistan, and while your countries constitution makes no reference of Kurds at all, our constitution recognizes even the smallest minority that are probably not even 10,000.

          Article 6

          First: The people of Kurdistan-Iraq consist of Kurds and other nationalities, Turkmen, Chaldeans, Assyrians, Armenians, and Arabs, who are citizens of Kurdistan Region in accordance with the law.

          Article 14

          First: Kurdish and Arabic shall be two official languages in Kurdistan Region, and this Constitution guarantees the rights of citizens of Kurdistan Region to the education of their children in their mother-tongue languages such as Turkmen, Assyrian, and Armenian in Kurdistan governmental educational institutions according to educational regulations.

          Second: Turkmen and Assyrian languages are two other official languages besides Kurdish and Arabic in the Administrative Units densely populated by people speaking these languages, and this shall be regulated by law.

          Now, your government does nothing for Kurds other than spread crap on Wiki, and promote division between them confused Yazidis and other Kurds, having said that... out of Kurds, Turks and Armenians, whom treat their minorities the best? Our constitution and the fact that every minority teach in their own language at schools answers for itself, now hop along with your xxxxty attitude.

          Also, the fact that we give 1 seat to an Armenian MP, 5 to Christians and 5 to Turkmen even if no one votes for their lists just shows who is more tolerant.
          Last edited by kurdman; 06-08-2011, 12:41 PM.

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          • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

            Originally posted by kurdman View Post
            Hey, kid, I told you before, not every Kurd lives in North Kurdistan, and not every Kurd took part in whatever happened, ok? there are Armenians living in Duhok and Ainkawa of Southern Kurdistan, and while your countries constitution makes no reference of Kurds at all, our constitution recognizes even the smallest minority that are probably not even 10,000.

            Article 6

            First: The people of Kurdistan-Iraq consist of Kurds and other nationalities, Turkmen, Chaldeans, Assyrians, Armenians, and Arabs, who are citizens of Kurdistan Region in accordance with the law.

            Article 14

            First: Kurdish and Arabic shall be two official languages in Kurdistan Region, and this Constitution guarantees the rights of citizens of Kurdistan Region to the education of their children in their mother-tongue languages such as Turkmen, Assyrian, and Armenian in Kurdistan governmental educational institutions according to educational regulations.

            Second: Turkmen and Assyrian languages are two other official languages besides Kurdish and Arabic in the Administrative Units densely populated by people speaking these languages, and this shall be regulated by law.

            Now, your government does nothing for Kurds other than spread crap on Wiki, and promote division between them confused Yazidis and other Kurds, having said that... out of Kurds, Turks and Armenians, whom treat their minorities the best? Our constitution and the fact that every minority teach in their own language at schools answers for itself, now hop along with your xxxxty attitude.

            Also, the fact that we give 1 seat to an Armenian MP, 5 to Christians and 5 to Turkmen even if no one votes for their lists just shows who is more tolerant.
            Don't dare call me 'kid' again. You see me calling you names? Remain mature or don't talk.

            Yes Armenians living in their ancestral homeland of in the areas of Eastern Anatolia (Western Armenian) were butchered and forced out.

            Armenians living in Iraq have fled as well because of the war and violence against Christians. There may be Armenians remaining, especially in the safe Kurdistan part of Iraq, but there numbers are rather small and I doubt Armenians in Kurdistan play a crucial role in politics.

            Armenian Government does grant Yazidis minority rights in Armenia, check your facts - and they are actually patriotic citizens that fought in the Karabakh War against the Azeris.
            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
            ---
            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

              Originally posted by Mos View Post
              Don't dare call me 'kid' again. You see me calling you names? Remain mature or don't talk.

              Yes Armenians living in their ancestral homeland of in the areas of Eastern Anatolia (Western Armenian) were butchered and forced out.

              Armenians living in Iraq have fled as well because of the war and violence against Christians. There may be Armenians remaining, especially in the safe Kurdistan part of Iraq, but there numbers are rather small and I doubt Armenians in Kurdistan play a crucial role in politics.

              Armenian Government does grant Yazidis minority rights in Armenia, check your facts - and they are actually patriotic citizens that fought in the Karabakh War against the Azeris.
              Don't act like one then? all you do is repeat the same 'Kurds can't be trusted' as if in politics there is 'trust' do you think anyone trusts anyone? dear god...

              Armenians live in the Duhok province and recently some moved from Baghdad to ainkawa which is a christian town literally two minutes away from the Kurdish capital, Hawler/Erbil, it's also where our main Airport is.

              Prove me wrong, quote a section of your constitution that makes reference to Kurds, Muslims or Yazidis, go on? I bet you cant... face it, your state is one that promotes hatred between Kurds, you have done nothing, absolutely nothing for Kurds in your state, and the Armenians in Kurdistan are also patriotic as I know one Armenian guy on an Assyrian forum that defends Kurdish interest there, besides the first female soldier we had was an Armenian and her name was Margaret Shello, some claim she was Assyrian, but she was actually Armenian.

              They don't need to play a crucial part in our politics, that however does not change the fact that they need at least one Representative in our parliament

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              • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                Originally posted by kurdman View Post
                Don't act like one then? all you do is repeat the same 'Kurds can't be trusted' as if in politics there is 'trust' do you think anyone trusts anyone? dear god...

                Armenians live in the Duhok province and recently some moved from Baghdad to ainkawa which is a christian town literally two minutes away from the Kurdish capital, Hawler/Erbil, it's also where our main Airport is.

                Prove me wrong, quote a section of your constitution that makes reference to Kurds, Muslims or Yazidis, go on? I bet you cant... face it, your state is one that promotes hatred between Kurds, you have done nothing, absolutely nothing for Kurds in your state, and the Armenians in Kurdistan are also patriotic as I know one Armenian guy on an Assyrian forum that defends Kurdish interest there, besides the first female soldier we had was an Armenian and her name was Margaret Shello, some claim she was Assyrian, but she was actually Armenian.

                They don't need to play a crucial part in our politics, that however does not change the fact that they need at least one Representative in our parliament
                You need some level of trust when helping someone out, with that trust being sure they won't stab you in the back again. Kurds and Turks killing each other is already good for us - no need to get involved.

                It's not Kurds but Yazidis that are living in Armenia. They are not Muslim, and they identify themselves as different from Kurds. and the Muslim population one could probably count with their hands. That being said, the Armenian constitution ensures the equal treatment of all people regardless of ethnicity or religion. My state could care less about divisions within Kurds - there are more important matters than what some Kurds think.
                Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                ---
                "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                  Originally posted by Mos View Post
                  You need some level of trust when helping someone out, with that trust being sure they won't stab you in the back again. Kurds and Turks killing each other is already good for us - no need to get involved.

                  It's not Kurds but Yazidis that are living in Armenia. They are not Muslim, and they identify themselves as different from Kurds. and the Muslim population one could probably count with their hands. That being said, the Armenian constitution ensures the equal treatment of all people regardless of ethnicity or religion. My state could care less about divisions within Kurds - there are more important matters than what some Kurds think.
                  No, you don't need 'trust' there are common interests, and you asses this interest to determine whether the other party would stick to the deal, otherwise if it's not in the other parties interest, you'd be a pool and a crappy politician to believe that they won't screw you over.

                  Funny, becuase just by you being the ignorant person that you are, you portray the same attitude as that of your government which is 'Yazidi is not Kurd' where as every scholar laughs at this claims, I don't really care what you do with them confused Yazidi, your country is insignificant to our plans.. and it's too small and reliant on Russia/Iran to cause too much trouble for us.. and with that kind of racist attitude and I hope that there will never be any diplomatic ties between us.

                  You have no evidence what so ever to back up your statements, you are however the typical ignorant nationalist that makes a statement followed by 'I'm right, your wrong, period' instead of using some neutral sources.

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                  • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                    Kurds don't deserve a state.....they should be happy with their Zionist founded Northern Iraq Kurdistan. You stage an attack on Iran from there it will be your last move of betrayal.

                    With that said I support PKK freedom fighters.
                    B0zkurt Hunter

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                    • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                      Originally posted by kurdman View Post
                      You see, kid, people have been making speculations and predictions since 2003, and what happened? Kurdish power has just been increasing
                      Kurds will be thrown to the wolfs yet again....get off your high horse and illusions of grandure. How old are you that you are calling me a kid boy?
                      B0zkurt Hunter

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