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  • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

    Originally posted by ArmSurvival View Post
    1. We have no significant natural resources
    2. 80% of our borders are blockaded
    3. We are landlocked
    3. We have 2 neighbors many times our strength who want to wipe us off the map


    Please explain how any of these facts are 'exaggerated'





    All countries have problems. Georgia's and Azerbaijan's problems are due to their own stupidity (becoming hostile towards Russia, not knowing how to deal with domestic problems, etc). Armenia's problems are different because most of them have to do with our history and current geography, not the stupidity of our leaders. I'm not saying our leaders are geniuses, but its clear that most of our problems existed before our leaders were elected.





    At the current pace, Georgia will not survive. They just lost 1/4 of their country to Russians, and they have major domestic problems. They are only staying alive because they rely heavily on Turkey & Azerbaijan (is this what you want for Armenia?).

    Azerbaijan has a little more leverage than Georgia and Armenia because they have OIL. You keep comparing Armenia to Azerbaijan & Turkmenistan but you don't realize they have nothing in common. When it comes to Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan, anyone can see:

    1. Both countries have lots of natural resources (oil).
    2. Both countries have wide open borders.
    3. Both countries have access to the sea.
    4. Neither country has active military threats from larger countries.

    Basically, they have NONE of the major problems Armenia has. If you want to compare Armenia to any other entity, you can compare them to the Gaza Strip. They have exactly the same problems we do. I can safely say we are many years ahead of the Gaza Strip.
    I will be laconic: BULLxxxx

    P.S- Gaza Strip has access to sea
    P.S.P.S- Georgia does not have oil.
    P.S.P.S.P.S- Is Russia a larger country?
    P.S.P.S.P.S:P.S. Level of coruption in Georgia that "will not survive" are much lower than in Armenia. It is concidered much more free and liberal country (for trade).
    Last edited by Mukuch; 03-22-2011, 09:15 AM.

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    • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

      Seriousely, you guys should open a cry club and hold a meeting once a month in some city, sit down and cry. like a secret fightclub.

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      • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

        Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
        Seriousely, you guys should open a cry club and hold a meeting once a month in some city, sit down and cry. like a secret fightclub.

        I can recomend a cattering company with big stock of cry-tissues

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        • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

          Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
          I will be laconic: BULLxxxx

          P.S- Gaza Strip has access to sea
          ArmSurvival is right. Gaza Strip is supposed to have access to the sea but it does not. Israel has a naval blockade on the Gaza Strip.
          Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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          • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

            Originally posted by Federate View Post
            ArmSurvival is right. Gaza Strip is supposed to have access to the sea but it does not. Israel has a naval blockade on the Gaza Strip.
            Gaza -Strip has access to sea-Gaza Strip is not landlocked country. Israely blockad is another issue.
            Last edited by Mukuch; 03-22-2011, 09:15 AM.

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            • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

              Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
              Gaza -Strip has access to sea-Gaza Strip is not landlocked country. Israely blockad is another issue.
              What's the point of having a sea when you cannot use it? In the case of Gaza Strip, having a sea is actually bad for them since it gives Israel another way to blockade the country.
              Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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              • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                I only see that you do not know the difference between Turkmenistan and Kyrgzstan.
                For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                  Vafa Guluzade: Armenian troops would reach Kura River in 1994
                  March 21, 2011 - 16:27 AMT 12:27 GMT
                  PanARMENIAN.Net - Former advisor to Azerbaijani president Heydar Aliyev Vafa Guluzade said that the Armenian troops would have occupied major part of Azerbaijan in 1994, if it were not for the West’s support of Baku.

                  Guluzade said in an article published by Yeni Musavat paper and placed on Caucasus-Online website that the oil factor was the decisive one in the 1994 agreement on ceasefire in Karabakh. Otherwise, the Armenian troops would have reached Kura River and Kurdamir in the central part of Azerbaijan, what would have jeopardized Azerbaijan’s existence as a state. “Only the interest of the U.S. towards Azerbaijan prevented implementation of these plans,” said Guluzade.

                  He believes that energy resources and transit opportunities of Azerbaijan have secured the West’s interest towards the country, what has protected the country’s independence.

                  “Azerbaijan’s independence would have been formal, if it were not for the American interests. Right the oil factor has secured Azerbaijan’s importance for the western states. Oil, gas and transit potential of Azerbaijan increase its role for the West and allow withstanding Russia,” Guluzade said, adding that greater integration with the West would only strengthen Baku’s international positions.

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                  • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                    I only see that you do not know the difference between Turkmenistan and Kyrgzstan.
                    Really? Is there any?

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                    • Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

                      Originally posted by Federate View Post
                      What's the point of having a sea when you cannot use it? In the case of Gaza Strip, having a sea is actually bad for them since it gives Israel another way to blockade the country.
                      Israely blockade is not a geographical asset. It will end eventually... or Gaza Strip will end... both ways OK by me

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