Iranian-Armenian relations

[Vahramig]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Well Vartan was right! We had a nice war with Persians and they lost a lot of blood. They did not dare come back for centuries. I think that is why Iran besides having smiliar genes likes us to this day. We made them like us becuase we fought so hard. All the Persians I know like Armenians. Persians like hanging with Armenians, and they do like us. So I'm wondering who this guy really is? Perhaps he is an azerbaboon wanabe posing as a Persian? That is the only thing that makes sense, this guy is not barsig, he is probably an azerbaboon.

[haysip]

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lets not forget that this is the first map of the "world" and only Armenia survives until today. where is iran? there is no such thing as iran and they will come lateron in history...

[Eddo211]

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I do agree that the land now called "Armenia" was called "Perso-Armenia" and that it was "handed" by your "leaders" to other people and is now a fraction of it once was. Do you deny that? Who is the "undeserving idiot"? The one who retains his land or the one that does not know how to build and maintain alliances and gives land away? Though the Turks couldn't control of Armenian land under Persian leadership for centuries, Armenian and Russian *leaders* laid waste to most of Armenian land.

If Persians lived where Armenians did they would have been instinct as a race long time ago.....most of Iranians living outside Iran after the Islamic revolution already do not connect to Iran and incourage assimilation, granted Iran has a large population, but compared to Armenians who have persevered throughout the centuries Persians if numbered as we were/are wouldn't have stand a chance.

Like I said, you don't know Armenians and you are not a Persian.

[Mos]

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you should watch out not to be lonely and surrounded by american, israeli-turkish wolfs waiting to turn iran into IRANESTAN...

Trust me, Iran makes a wrong move to Armenia, they will face that fate. We keep Israel/US at bay from their country via ours, but they wrong us, there's nothing stopping us from letting them engulf them and swallow their country. So it's in Iran's interest to be good with Armenia and maintain the current close relations.

[HermanGerman]

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one just need to read a book about how the arabs islamized iran and how they humiliated the iranian people to understand why persepolis is trying to change all this defeats into victories. it is because of his inferiority complexes. he has forgotten that a bunch of macedonian xxxs destroyed persia and burnt persepolis, a great ancient city its name he has chosen as nickname. what is left from all this glory, what do people now accociate with names like "persepolis" ? maybe a second class soccer-team managed by a lisping azari ?
it is really sad that such an childish person tries to represent iran. i know iran and i know a lot of iranian people and believe me this guy is a disgrace to iranians...
you should watch out not to be lonely and surrounded by american, israeli-turkish wolfs waiting to turn iran into IRANESTAN...

[Persopolis]

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what an as$hole. just because ur half-human emipre conqured Hayq

Go to Russia, and convince them you're human - a large fraction of them have attitudes like yours.

And with attitudes like yours, if Armenia was a stock in the stock market, I'd sell ... because the future for growth looks bleak. Who is your next alliance with? Chechnya?

...You have proclaimed Armenia part of "Greater Iran" .... would like to see how your nation would have fared if it had the history that we have endured.

Nothing you write on this website will determine what is or is not a part of Iran. Iran will determine how "Great" it is - not any single individual and not a small land mass clinging to life on its Northern border. If what you are saying is that you want to disavow Iran's historical borders, I suppose Iranians can disavow Armenia's claims too. Certainly there is a stronger historical basis and more evidence in favor of "Greater Iran" than "Greater Armenia." Why the double-standard? Why are you so comfortable talking about Greater Armenia, but want to stifle discussion of Iran's historical borders?

[Persopolis]

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....Don't forget you're a guest here, and don't forget where your limits are.

You shouldn't forget what YOUR limits are; speak that way to enough Iranians and your new home will permanently be in Glendale. What I presented were historical facts and I am not intimidated by you in the slightest. Make sure you understand that Iranians are not Aliyevbaijanis by yourself before Iranians are put in the position of teaching you.

.a nation of 70 million, doesn't even have it's own alphabet.

We have several of our own alphabets - the Perso-Arabic alphabet was developed because of changes in religion; not because we couldn't return to our prior alphabets.

your religion was forced upon you.

We have several religions in Iran - Zoroastrianism is indigenous to Iran; Shia Islam is indigenous to Iran. Zoroastrianism is the historical precurser to all of the Abrahamic faiths, but I won't make the argument that you are a lesser person because you practice a derivative religion though your comment implies that conclusion should be reached.

where many undeserving idiots have it handed to them, where those who are actually worthy and work for something have difficulty achieving it, so too with Iran, as well as those stupid arab countries, they had good luck in their geographic location, with oil

Iran was created and defended by people with intellect and courage -- I do agree that the land now called "Armenia" was called "Perso-Armenia" and that it was "handed" by your "leaders" to other people and is now a fraction of it once was. Do you deny that? Who is the "undeserving idiot"? The one who retains his land or the one that does not know how to build and maintain alliances and gives land away? Though the Turks couldn't control of Armenian land under Persian leadership for centuries, Armenian and Russian *leaders* laid waste to most of Armenian land.

Don't forget how the brits and Americans F***Ked over your people and used them and stole all their oil.

I'll make Iranians remind you that they are aware their own history the next time they hand you your welfare check so you can turn the lights on. What percentage of Armenia would you say is owned outright or debt-leveraged by Russia? 90%? What will you sell next?

...it is like Turks saying Van and Kars is "historically Turkish"...never mind that turks arrived in the 12th century.

Actually it's not like that all - Iranians did not "arrive in the 12th century [like the Turks]" ... Armenians kept losing increasing amounts of land in Western Armenia and we let them move to Perso-Armenia and erratic behavior like yours screwed that up too.

Do you really want to move back home? Let me give you directions:

[Mos]

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what an as$hole. just because ur half-human emipre conqured Hayq for some time doesnt mean its urs dam$hit. look at ur history, its all fights and conquring just like the turks. ur halfhuman barbaric country doesnt even have a culture of its own. cant u see muslim is ur culture??? and we all know what happens to a country's culture when muslims take over...

ONCE AGAIN THE ADMINS OF THIS FORUM ARE FAILING TO CLEAN ALL THE ANTI-ARMENIANISM!!!!

and what happens when the country turns into an Islamic theocracy.

[haysip]

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what an as$hole. just because ur half-human emipre conqured Hayq for some time doesnt mean its urs dam$hit. look at ur history, its all fights and conquring just like the turks. ur halfhuman barbaric country doesnt even have a culture of its own. cant u see muslim is ur culture??? and we all know what happens to a country's culture when muslims take over...

ONCE AGAIN THE ADMINS OF THIS FORUM ARE FAILING TO CLEAN ALL THE ANTI-ARMENIANISM!!!!

[Eddo211]

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Something interesting should be done to that land and the regional players should cooperate. One-sided declarations are fruitless. Iran / Azerbaijan = Apples / Oranges.

Hopefully, Armenian Universities have history departments that honestly and thoroughly explore the actual history of the Caucuses - otherwise people will develop faulty expectations and counterproductive attitudes based on gift-shop pamphlets and hollow nationalistic and revisionist-rhetoric that will alienate regional allies.

The population of Nackichevan was over 90% Armenian even in recent history....the land has been the sceen of countless battles throughout history, enough that you can kickup ancient weapons walking around. It has been conquered, re-conquered and conquered again by empires that don't exist anymore, the land has been flooded in blood in times....but it has always been Armenian land, historically.

If we go with your logic Iran has lesser claim than Turkey or Russia who are its guarantors at the moment.