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  • UrMistake
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    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
    Both Azerbaijan and some Armenians have interesting theories as to the name - ancient Armenian writings in New Julfa used this spelling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqsh-e_Jahan_Square Eddo or Lucin can translate the definition for you: نقش جهان

    Haven't I told you before that simply wishing things on the internet won't make them come true? Mos, I declare all of your childhood toys mine. Henceforth, they belong to me (and to the Government of Iran). I will rename your collection of toy trucks "Greater Iran" and your sister will be named 'Sally.'

    Do you actually do anything useful to help Armenia?
    What spelling? And what this have to do with Armenian Naxichevan?

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  • Persopolis
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    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    Well Naxijevan is Armenian so Armenians should take that, sure Iranians can help us when the time comes.
    Both Azerbaijan and some Armenians have interesting theories as to the name - ancient Armenian writings in New Julfa used this spelling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqsh-e_Jahan_Square Eddo or Lucin can translate the definition for you: نقش جهان

    Haven't I told you before that simply wishing things on the internet won't make them come true? Mos, I declare all of your childhood toys mine. Henceforth, they belong to me (and to the Government of Iran). I will rename your collection of toy trucks "Greater Iran" and your sister will be named 'Sally.'

    Do you actually do anything useful to help Armenia?

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  • Mos
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    Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
    [Removed Link on Purpose]

    " Iran must seize Baku and Nakhjivan, proviences of the Republic of Azarbaijan, an official says
    BayBak, Azerbaijan | Saturday, 19th May , 2007 , 20:53 [pm] | Azerbaijan

    Spokesman of Association of Islamic Fighters (Jamyiat-e Fadayian-e Eslam) added: It is more that 99 years that those proviences of Iran! was given to Russia, so it is time to reunite them with Iran.
    Mohammad Mehdi Abd-e Khodayi also rejects the name of Khazar Sea (Caspian Sea) and call it Mazandaran Sea. He says all area belongs to Iran. We are the must powerful rejime in middle east and have the last word in any debate.added: It is more that 99 years that those proviences of Iran! was given to Russia, so it is time to reunite them with Iran.

    Mohammad Mehdi Abd-e Khodayi also rejects the name of Khazar Sea (Caspian Sea) and call it Mazandaran Sea. He says all area belongs to Iran. We are the must powerful rejime in middle east and have the last word in any debate.

    It is not the first time an official body calls to attack to the Republic of Azarbaijan. As there is a magazine called Northern Iran (Iran-e Shomali) being published inside Iran, its budget comes from the government of Iran.

    Government of Azarbaijan has to be more serious and strong to face such idiotic claimes. Issue gets more complicated when nulear activities of Iran creating problems world wide. If Iran been given permition to have nuclear power (not energy), it will be to late to control her as she has started treathening the world.
    Well Naxijevan is Armenian so Armenians should take that, sure Iranians can help us when the time comes.

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  • Persopolis
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    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    [Removed Link on Purpose]

    " Iran must seize Baku and Nakhjivan, proviences of the Republic of Azarbaijan, an official says
    BayBak, Azerbaijan | Saturday, 19th May , 2007 , 20:53 [pm] | Azerbaijan

    Spokesman of Association of Islamic Fighters (Jamyiat-e Fadayian-e Eslam) added: It is more that 99 years that those proviences of Iran! was given to Russia, so it is time to reunite them with Iran.
    Mohammad Mehdi Abd-e Khodayi also rejects the name of Khazar Sea (Caspian Sea) and call it Mazandaran Sea. He says all area belongs to Iran. We are the must powerful rejime in middle east and have the last word in any debate.added: It is more that 99 years that those proviences of Iran! was given to Russia, so it is time to reunite them with Iran.

    Mohammad Mehdi Abd-e Khodayi also rejects the name of Khazar Sea (Caspian Sea) and call it Mazandaran Sea. He says all area belongs to Iran. We are the must powerful rejime in middle east and have the last word in any debate.

    It is not the first time an official body calls to attack to the Republic of Azarbaijan. As there is a magazine called Northern Iran (Iran-e Shomali) being published inside Iran, its budget comes from the government of Iran.

    Government of Azarbaijan has to be more serious and strong to face such idiotic claimes. Issue gets more complicated when nulear activities of Iran creating problems world wide. If Iran been given permition to have nuclear power (not energy), it will be to late to control her as she has started treathening the world.

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  • Persopolis
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    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    Yes, agree, it is BS!
    Iran made an official statement on it ... translation ... it's just BS.

    "The[Iranian] Embassy also reminds [the hostile parties] that Iranian official positions are expressed only by the Iranian President and the speaker of the MFA and other announcements are just opinions." http://times.am/2011/05/14/iranian-s...-the-nk-issue/
    Aliyev-baijan constantly complains about Iran's help to Armenia, as it did yesterday:

    "It was predicted that Iranian tourists visiting Armenia during the Novruz celebrations will spend about $20 million. However, the Armenian officials report that Iranians "poured" $40 million into the Armenian budget. The Iranian side allocated a grant worth $60 million for construction of the Tabriz-Yerevan Highway. Iran has provided Armenia with a priority position for the organization of economic and tourist activities in Kish. Based on the estimates, Armenia’s profit from economic and tourist activities in Iran will be about $20 million. Iran provides Armenia with a profit of $200 million under the ‘Gas in Exchange of Power’ project that will continue in 2011. Iran, which has connected Armenia with the World Ocean, undertook an obligation to complete the project which is worth $4 billion. Also, Iran will provide military assistance to Armenia," Ahmedoglu said. http://en.trend.az/news/politics/1875550.html
    Last edited by Persopolis; 05-14-2011, 01:46 PM.

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  • Persopolis
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    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    This month Iran & Armenia had high-level friendly defense talks: so, it would seem reasonable for Armenians to try to figure why there's a disinformation campaign underway trying to cast doubt about that relationship.

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  • Eddo211
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    The wiki article on Karabakh war has decided to include 'Iran' as supporter of azerbaijan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_War
    The reason appears to be from these two sources (citations 2,3 next to Iran), both related to what this Ameli figure had said about Iran supplying the Afghan fighters. I don't agree with Wiki.

    They were withdrawn within the framework of different agreements…


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  • Artsakh
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    BRAVO IRAN!!!!

    i am willing to bet that the recent azeri provocations got their orders from outside. connect all the dots: cutting aid to armenia amidst a dual blockade on the grounds of not meeting democratic standards, when infact Armenia is the most democratic country in the caucasus, while at the same time approving the sattelite deal while azerbaboonistan continues provocative actions and encouraging the dictatorship that exists in that so called country. in cutting aid to armenia is in effect joining in on the azero turkish blockadings, trying to squeeze armenia. IT WON"T WORK! Mossad and CIA agents intent may be to stir trouble to bring in international peacekeepers, from where they will also keep an eye on iran.

    i like it how its put: The US has never been anything other than a stranger to Armenia and it has been an active problem for Armenia due to its excessively Turkophile foreign policy since 1947. Private aid from Armenian Americans is more reliable and has been pouring in at around 300 million a year. The US will lose whatever leverage it has in the country; and its place will be taken by Russia, China and Iran. The next time Armenia deals with Iran, the US will not be able to threaten aid cut off. Worse yet, the lack of US involvement there means that future conflicts in Georgia will entail bribing the Laz to smuggle out Americans in contrast to August 2008. In less than 2 years, this decision will be severely regretted, but by then it will be too late.


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    Karabakh conflict should be resolved based on dialogue, non-use of force and respect for people’s right to self-determination-Iranian Embassy

    YEREVAN. “Nagorno-Karabakh conflict should be settled through a dialogue, non-use of force and respect for the people’s right to self-determination,” Iranian embassy in Armenia said in a statement.

    “The Iranian Embassy in Armenia reiterates that Iran’s president, foreign minister and spokesman for the foreign ministry express Iran’s official stance on foreign policy. Any statement made outside of these frameworks, is an expression of personal opinion.

    Iran’s foreign policy with respect to all regional conflicts was based on support for mediatory efforts aimed at establishing peace and stability in the region, conflict resolutions, as well as dialogue between the parties. The evidence thereof are Iran’s steps, aimed at resolving the internal conflicts in Tajikistan, Afghanistan and Iraq.
    Iran has always upheld the position that the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan should be settled based on a dialogue, non-use of force and respect for the right to self-determination. Since Iran is the only state that has a common border with the conflict zone, Iran expresses concern over any provocation and creation of tension in the region. It will not allow such provocations to become an occasion for presence of foreign forces in the region,” the Embassy said.


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  • Artsakh
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    Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
    Not sure how true this is - the statement might have been made simply to quell Pan-Turkic sentiment on Iran's Northern Border.
    Ayatollah Ameli played up to Azeris, Armenian expert says

    May 10, 2011 - 12:06 AMTPanARMENIAN.Net - The statement by Iranian Ayatollah Seyed Hassan Ameli should be viewed as a show of respect put up for the benefit of Azerbaijanis, who, inspired by the perspective of starting an Islamic revolution in the country, are worried over any sort of Iranian-Armenian cooperation, an expert said.

    As Hrant Melik-Shahnazaryan told a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter, Ayatollah Ameli decided to play up to Azerbaijanis to refute accusations of ‘betrayal of Islamic values’.

    “During Karabakh war, Iran provided Armenia's food safety. No military cooperation was discussed at the time. However, last autumn Azerbaijan requested Iran for a pass-through for a quick march to Fizuli, Jebrail and Zangelan and was refused point-blank,” the expert stressed.

    Recently, Iranian Ayatollah Seyed Hassan Ameli stated that Iran supplied weapons to Azeri troops who experienced armament shortage while fighting in battles for Shushi.


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  • gegev
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    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    Originally posted by Persopolis View Post
    Not sure how true this is - the statement might have been made simply to quell Pan-Turkic sentiment on Iran's Northern Border.

    There are no shortage of stories like the one below that indicate that Iran and Azerbaijan are not at all on friendly terms: hard to imagine Iran's military helping Azerbaijan against Armenia. Sounds like BS. And Armenia's leadership would show a different outward view of Iran if that was the case. The story above just reads like BS.
    Yes, agree, it is BS!

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