Elections in Armenia

[Sarkis86]

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Benny Hill was great but their contributions are dwarfed by the damage they have inflicted on the world. Its like saying look at what a wonderful country Turky is while you are standing on the bones of armenians, greeks, assyrians, kurds..

I never said "look how great Britain is", my point was to look at their nation in its totality. Your analogy to turkey is so wrong it's not even worth responding to. Reread what I wrote carefully.

[Haykakan]

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I never said "look how great Britain is", my point was to look at their nation in its totality. Your analogy to turkey is so wrong it's not even worth responding to. Reread what I wrote carefully.

Like i said "their contributions are dwarfed by the damage they have inflicted on the world."

[Vahram]

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my point was to look at their nation in its totality

Point well taken brother! But just understand one thing, we are Armenians, we are fair by nature. Does not mean everyone is so, we should always pull back a little and sting them back! Why must we always be good Christians? Have we not had enough? Besides no one in this forum can question you bro! Haykakan made a good point, but not at you, at the English!

There is no dark side of the moon really, as a matter of fact it's all dark. <---- proving your point too! But not as much as his.

[Sarkis86]

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Like i said "their contributions are dwarfed by the damage they have inflicted on the world."

Just like the Roman Empire and Persian Empire were Armenia's enemies two thousand years ago: it's okay to learn from and appreciate the contributions to civilzation the Romans and Persian made like in architecture and in medicine and in poetry and in law, we can also appreciate and learn from British culture but know that they are our enemies.

Anyway enough about Britain.

[Sarkis86]

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So Hayrikyan is sticking to his story that "it was the Russians". On the one hand, I respect Hayrikyan for not trying to use this shooting as a means to incite the masses against Serj. On the other hand, I see Hayrikyan's actions as an anti-Armenian move because simply put, no Russia in Armenia = no Armenia. Hayrikyan suffers from a classic syndrome in which veterans of one battle always see their former adversary as the eternal enemy, even when the interests of the sides have changed and now coincide. In other words, "a cold warrior never dies". Fighting for Armenian nationalism in the face of bolshevik/marxist globalism may have been laudable in the 1970s. But now, continuing to attack Moscow endangers our nation and only plays into the hands of the CIA, turkey and azerbaijan, and israel. Hayrikyan may or may not have good intentions, but his actions are dangerous.

Hayrikyan needs to address the possibility that the shooter was interested in derailing an otherwise smooth election in Armenia. That places the western powers and the azeris/turks at the top of the list of suspects.

On a side note, apparently Hayrikyan has a j*wish wife and therefore j*wish children according to talmudic law. Some conflicting interests for a candidate for Armenia's presidency I'd say. We all remember how things went under the similarly situated levin ter-petrosstein... And if he thinks it is a justifiable expense for Armenia to set back the date of an election for a candidate that will be lucky if he gets over 5% of the vote, then I'd say Hayrikyan's self-aggrandizement has finally led to a break from reality. Still, I'm glad to see his recovering and I hope that he gets to have a peaceful retirement for his earlier service to the Armenian nation. As Lernakan so astutely pointed out, had the assassination attempt succeeded, Armenia may have faced another riot and more international meddling in its affairs.

[Vahram]

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Oh wow the dude is up and walking about after two shots? I mean wow really how could this be? This is such comedy that if it was not so sad for Armenia I would be laughing my arse off! But he is up with a flesh wound at best, if it was not for using so much Ketchup you would have thought that he cut himself shaving!

Armo's you better wake up! Don't let simple cheap theatrics to get you to move your eyes off the ball! Keep them planted on the ball someone wants to play a fecking game! Meanwhile Armenia's image was tainted and they will milk this to the max while this idiot walks around? My god!

Was this idiot not breathing into a mask just yesterday? As if he was dying! Now he is walking around and talking bull again! I wonder what kind of meeting he had with the English Embassy b!tch? I bet they were like... Hi Max, the show is on for tonight, here are your two ketchup packets...ROTFLMOA

[bell-the-cat]

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Yeh right Russia wants to assasinate a guy who cant get 1% of the vote LOL.

You shoot one to "encourage" the others. You don't shoot those that might be in a position to be useful to you, you shoot those that will never be in a position to be useful but can be made an example for the others.

[Vahram]

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You shoot one to "encourage" the others. You don't shoot those that might be in a position to be useful to you, you shoot those that will never be in a position to be useful but can be made an example for the others.

Thank you for sharing how the Brits perform such acts. Very revealing indeed, I believe there was a book published by Yardly's of England on the subject matter....LOL

[Sarkis86]

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You shoot one to "encourage" the others. You don't shoot those that might be in a position to be useful to you, you shoot those that will never be in a position to be useful but can be made an example for the others.

That may sometimes be the case. But if you're Russia, and Armenia is your last ally in the geopolitically crucial South Caucasus region, and the country is now stable and secure in the Russian orbit, and the threat of another March 2008 "color revolution/Armenian Spring" has been neutralized, and your ally Serj Sarkisyan is set to win reelection smoothly, and the Russian Armed Forces and Russian Intelligence are integrated with Armenia's state security structures to the point where a western-dictated revolution would be crushed instantaneously, and you have your hands full with the west's war against Syria, and the west's aggressive efforts to remilitarize the Russian border with Eastern Europe with missiles and anti-missile systems... Would Russia really benefit from rocking the boat in Armenia?

It seems unlikely. Russia wouldn't make a saakashvili-caliber miscalculation like shooting at a candidate like Hayrikyan, who is less than a "Ross Perot" in the Armenian political world in terms of his influence and electability. The more logical explanation seems to be that someone, somewhere was interested in causing chaos in Armenia during election season. That would benefit the west (which wants to overthrow the Sarkisyan government, set up a puppet like saakashvili in Yerevan, kick the Russians out and surrender Artsakh to azerbaijan in order to clear the way for more gas pipelines from the Caspian through Armenia to turkey bypassing Russia), azerbaijan/turkey (which just want Armenia weakened from internal chaos so they can finish what they set out to do in 1915) and israel (which, due to severe psychologicla defects, eyes Iran-friedndly Armenia as an enemy).

[Artashes]

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That may sometimes be the case. But if you're Russia, and Armenia is your last ally in the geopolitically crucial South Caucasus region, and the country is now stable and secure in the Russian orbit, and the threat of another March 2008 "color revolution/Armenian Spring" has been neutralized, and your ally Serj Sarkisyan is set to win reelection smoothly, and the Russian Armed Forces and Russian Intelligence are integrated with Armenia's state security structures to the point where a western-dictated revolution would be crushed instantaneously, and you have your hands full with the west's war against Syria, and the west's aggressive efforts to remilitarize the Russian border with Eastern Europe with missiles and anti-missile systems... Would Russia really benefit from rocking the boat in Armenia?

It seems unlikely. Russia wouldn't make a saakashvili-caliber miscalculation like shooting at a candidate like Hayrikyan, who is less than a "Ross Perot" in the Armenian political world in terms of his influence and electability. The more logical explanation seems to be that someone, somewhere was interested in causing chaos in Armenia during election season. That would benefit the west (which wants to overthrow the Sarkisyan government, set up a puppet like saakashvili in Yerevan, kick the Russians out and surrender Artsakh to azerbaijan in order to clear the way for more gas pipelines from the Caspian through Armenia to turkey bypassing Russia), azerbaijan/turkey (which just want Armenia weakened from internal chaos so they can finish what they set out to do in 1915) and israel (which, due to severe psychologicla defects, eyes Iran-friedndly Armenia as an enemy).

In my opinion , the above post by Sarkis is a far better analysis than Bells ( hurt felling ) post / analysis .
Again , in my opinion the west / America ( my country ) has become nothing more than a thinly veiled front for the super ultra rich / multi national manipulator(s) .
America is HIGHLY aggressive in the slyist , yet blatant way , and operates 24/7 with some of the best minds , yet stupid mo fo's on the planet .
Extreme vigilance is needed --- beware ---
In my opinion , believe it or not --- truth , honesty , decency, coupled with plenty of capable weapons , and the determined resolve to use them is the only way to make the " tough guy " dance like a girl as they are doing now .
Artashes