Religion and Atheism

[HayotzAmrotz]

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This would all be fine and dandy if we could establish that it is in fact a choice among human beings. This is the assumption on which your argument rests. But again, as Sip has said already, this is a big departure from the topic. Perhaps we should turn back to it.

Choice is present in absolutely everything humans do, or not do. Choice is the name of the road that leads someone to homosexuality, not their birth, the nature or the God. Blaming the latter three is, at best, a classic behaviour of psychologically weak people, and at worst, a deliberate and calculated attempt to attack religions in order to discredit and weaken them in the eyes of the sheeple (the brainless masses) whose numerically superior voice (the so-called democracy) can be used to change laws to suite gays. Attacks on the institute of marriage and attempts to create gay priests, are some examples of the latter.

My message to the gays is this: If you want to be a gay, go for your life! Just be aware that governments will pass laws that will tax your sorry arses so hard that your butt-plugs will pop out from your mouths. Before you b-itch-scream "discrimination" - stop and think: Our (normal family people's) retirement will be supported by the taxes paid by our children who by that time will be grown and working professionals. If the gays aren't taxed significantly more than we are then who is going to pay for their retirement? That's right - the gays want it to be our children! Because there is no one else who can pay, and because gays (being the selfish and sick bastards they are) 9 out of 10 times don't have children and the 1 which will have a child will create and unleash on the society another useless sicko like himself.

Bipolars, when manic, tend to engage in risky behavior, does this mean they chose to be bipolar

Becoming homosexual is a choice, then, once you are a gay, it is a disease, a disease of the mind that can also lead to many diseases of the body as well. (HIV etc.)

[HayotzAmrotz]

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I am not sure if you are serious here or not. If you are serious, I would ask if you have ever had a cat as pet. I know my cat definitely has me trained very well to do what she wants me to do so either I am stupid, or she is pretty damn smart.

Animals are neither smart nor stupid because animals can’t think, they don’t have a mind. They, including your beloved cat, act purely on their instincts and their memory. The combination of these two elements (instinct and memory) produces the behaviour which you call “smart”.

I sincerely hope that the Hollywood Virus hasn’t caught up with you, my friend. I’ve seen many young and seemingly smart guys who honestly believe in many things, such as superheroes and smart animals (i.e. “Madagascar”), which Hollywood transmits into their minds.

Homosexuality goes far far faaaaaar beyond just a physical act. People commit to each other and live their entire lives in homosexual relationships. That cannot be simply because of the act of sex.

Paedophilia also goes “far far faaaaaar beyond just a physical act”. People (say a 50 year old man and a 15 year old boy) commit to each other and live their entire lives in homosexual and paedophilic relationship. That cannot be simply because of the act of sex, can it, Sip?

Well, of course not, because these twin brothers: homosexuality and paedophilia are very serious psychological disorders, they are mind sicknesses of the worst kind and the only way out of them is by healing the mind, which starts by admitting the sickness.

[Eddo211]

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This would be a fine belief if humans were the only species that had homosexuals as well as males and females. But there are many other high level mammals where we have many documented cases of homosexuality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...exual_behavior

Do you "believe" that those animals are also influenced after birth to be gay or is there perhaps biology at play there but not in humans?

All them Mammals listed has nothing to do with humans, including the two Penguins stuck in a Zoo (Jail).....however seeing a African male lion banging another must be a sight. I have seen dogs do each other but never chickens. Do you have proof that Male Chimps show those behaviors?

Men like to plug holes and Christianity keeps us focused on correct target.

How can you make women’s Boobs grow?
Manswers: You give her a crying baby ringtone and call her repeatedly. It is scientifically proven that the sound of a crying baby makes women's breast grow.

BTW, Mother nature doesn't make a mistake.

[Siggie]

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I think I read that sentence waaay too fast and sort of jumped from start to end and totally got confused ... made me do a double take and read it carefully again.

It was the choking hazard huh? Oh man... *wipes tears*

Perhaps it should be called homomental instead of homosexual. That would imply that it's a psychological disorder and not a biological disorder. In fact, society across all intellect refuses to tackle the fact that it's not "normal".

I never implied we're mindless. There are biological influences on lots of things though, so I'm not sure why you reject the whole idea. Perhaps we can take a step back and address your claim first.

You're concluding that it is a choice. You're stating a conclusion. I am still not sure what premises led to this conclusion. Can you explain the logic and/or reasoning by which you arrive there please so that we may properly discuss it? Thanks!

[KanadaHye]

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This goes absolutely to the core of the matter. The religious for some reason love to focus on the physical aspects of sex (calling it wrong, perverted, etc). Homosexuality goes far far faaaaaar beyond just a physical act. People commit to each other and live their entire lives in homosexual relationships. That cannot be simply because of the act of sex.

And now from a more practical perspective ... I definitely don't understand the gay male mind at all. I have 0 such desires (of doing exactly what you said). But never the less, there are males that are attracted to other males and there are females that are attracted to other females and it neither starts nor stops with sex organs.

Perhaps it should be called homomental instead of homosexual. That would imply that it's a psychological disorder and not a biological disorder. In fact, society across all intellect refuses to tackle the fact that it's not "normal".

[Sip]

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... Or to have sex organs right next to the waste system, breathing and eating in the same hole (choking hazard), etc.

I think I read that sentence waaay too fast and sort of jumped from start to end and totally got confused ... made me do a double take and read it carefully again.

[Sip]

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Humans are the only mammals that can think, which means that they are the only ones that can make an informed decision, a conscious choice.

I am not sure if you are serious here or not. If you are serious, I would ask if you have ever had a cat as pet. I know my cat definitely has me trained very well to do what she wants me to do so either I am stupid, or she is pretty damn smart.

[Sip]

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I'm sure science can back up the fact that there are health risks to sticking body parts in fecal matter.

This goes absolutely to the core of the matter. The religious for some reason love to focus on the physical aspects of sex (calling it wrong, perverted, etc). Homosexuality goes far far faaaaaar beyond just a physical act. People commit to each other and live their entire lives in homosexual relationships. That cannot be simply because of the act of sex.

And now from a more practical perspective ... I definitely don't understand the gay male mind at all. I have 0 such desires (of doing exactly what you said). But never the less, there are males that are attracted to other males and there are females that are attracted to other females and it neither starts nor stops with sex organs.

[KanadaHye]

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You haven't posted a serious reply to my post. Funny joke, but used here and without addressing my points, it looks like a distraction tactic.

The joke is thinking a man doesn't know the difference between sex organs and has no control over his actions. Your argument seems to convey the message that we are mindless beings that can't control ourselves. HayotzAmrotz already covered this.

[Siggie]

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Henry Ford Dies, Goes To Heaven
Henry Ford dies and goes to heaven. At the Gates, St. Peter greets Ford and tells him, "Well, you've been such a good guy, and your invention ... the Assembly line for the automobile ... changed the world. As a reward, you can hang out with anyone in Heaven you want."

Ford thinks about it, and says, "I want to hang out with God Himself." So the befuddled St. Peter takes Ford to the Throne Room, and introduces him to God.

Ford asks God, "When you invented Woman, what were you thinking?"

God asks, "What do you mean?"

"Well," says Ford, "You have some major design flaws in your invention:
1. There's too much front-end protrusion.
2. It chatters way too much at high speeds.
3. Maintenance is extremely high.
4. It constantly needs repainting and refinishing.
5. Every 28 days it leaks fluid and is rendered out of service.
6. The rear end wobbles too much.
7. The intake is placed too close to the exhaust.
8. The headlights are usually too small.
9. Fuel consumption is outrageous.

"Hummmm," replies God, "hold on a minute."

God goes over to the Celestial Supercomputer, types in a few keystrokes, and waits for the results. In no time, the computer prints out a report and God reads it. God then turns to Ford, and says, "It may be that my invention is flawed, but according to these statistics, more men are riding my invention than yours."

You haven't posted a serious reply to my post. Funny joke, but used here and without addressing my points, it looks like a distraction tactic.