Religion and Atheism

[KanadaHye]

Re: Religion and Atheism

What are you trying to say? Because it's a health risk it couldn't be biological?

Who claimed we were perfectly designed? If anything this is an argument against creation. It's also poor design to have the urinary tract so close to fecal matter, Or to have sex organs right next to the waste system, breathing and eating in the same hole (choking hazard), etc.

Does it being riskier mean that it can't be biological?
Bipolars, when manic, tend to engage in risky behavior, does this mean they chose to be bipolar?

Henry Ford Dies, Goes To Heaven
Henry Ford dies and goes to heaven. At the Gates, St. Peter greets Ford and tells him, "Well, you've been such a good guy, and your invention ... the Assembly line for the automobile ... changed the world. As a reward, you can hang out with anyone in Heaven you want."

Ford thinks about it, and says, "I want to hang out with God Himself." So the befuddled St. Peter takes Ford to the Throne Room, and introduces him to God.

Ford asks God, "When you invented Woman, what were you thinking?"

God asks, "What do you mean?"

"Well," says Ford, "You have some major design flaws in your invention:
1. There's too much front-end protrusion.
2. It chatters way too much at high speeds.
3. Maintenance is extremely high.
4. It constantly needs repainting and refinishing.
5. Every 28 days it leaks fluid and is rendered out of service.
6. The rear end wobbles too much.
7. The intake is placed too close to the exhaust.
8. The headlights are usually too small.
9. Fuel consumption is outrageous.

"Hummmm," replies God, "hold on a minute."

God goes over to the Celestial Supercomputer, types in a few keystrokes, and waits for the results. In no time, the computer prints out a report and God reads it. God then turns to Ford, and says, "It may be that my invention is flawed, but according to these statistics, more men are riding my invention than yours."

[Siggie]

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I'm sure science can back up the fact that there are health risks to sticking body parts in fecal matter.

What are you trying to say? Because it's a health risk it couldn't be biological?

Who claimed we were perfectly designed? If anything this is an argument against creation. It's also poor design to have the urinary tract so close to fecal matter, Or to have sex organs right next to the waste system, breathing and eating in the same hole (choking hazard), etc.

Does it being riskier mean that it can't be biological?
Bipolars, when manic, tend to engage in risky behavior, does this mean they chose to be bipolar?

[KanadaHye]

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Please tell me about when and how you made the conscious decision to be attracted to women.

Well it all started with these two blonde twins on the playground when I was three...

[KanadaHye]

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Does some uncontrollable force make you want to engage in the "non-perverted" version of those acts with women?

I'm sure science can back up the fact that there are health risks to sticking body parts in fecal matter.

[Siggie]

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Are you claiming that people are "forced" to engage in perverted acts by some uncontrollable force?

Does some uncontrollable force make you want to engage in the "non-perverted" version of those acts with women?
Please tell me about when and how you made the conscious decision to be attracted to women.

[KanadaHye]

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This would all be fine and dandy if we could establish that it is in fact a choice among human beings. This is the assumption on which your argument rests. But again, as Sip has said already, this is a big departure from the topic. Perhaps we should turn back to it.

Are you claiming that people are "forced" to engage in perverted acts by some uncontrollable force?

[Siggie]

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Humans are the only mammals that can think, which means that they are the only ones that can make an informed decision, a conscious choice. No other mammal can do that, so the homosexual mammals you are referring to in the wiki link act on pure instincts, absolutely mindlessly and without any thought processes whatsoever! So, the answer to your question is “yes” these animals are also influenced after birth to be gay, they are influenced by their lack of mind while humans are influenced by the fact of having a mind.

This would all be fine and dandy if we could establish that it is in fact a choice among human beings. This is the assumption on which your argument rests. But again, as Sip has said already, this is a big departure from the topic. Perhaps we should turn back to it.

[KanadaHye]

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That's like comparing limes to pineapples. Like I said, there are gays everywhere and it is in fact biological.

So you're saying that there is a "gay" gene?

[HayotzAmrotz]

Re: Religion and Atheism

This would be a fine belief if humans were the only species that had homosexuals as well as males and females. But there are many other high level mammals where we have many documented cases of homosexuality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...exual_behavior

Do you "believe" that those animals are also influenced after birth to be gay or is there perhaps biology at play there but not in humans?

Humans are the only mammals that can think, which means that they are the only ones that can make an informed decision, a conscious choice. No other mammal can do that, so the homosexual mammals you are referring to in the wiki link act on pure instincts, absolutely mindlessly and without any thought processes whatsoever! So, the answer to your question is “yes” these animals are also influenced after birth to be gay, they are influenced by their lack of mind while humans are influenced by the fact of having a mind.

[Sip]

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Yes I am often very touched and inspired by those select few disabled people that work their ass off and really do well. So I am glad we settled that question regarding religion and atheism.