Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

[Vrej1915]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

When I hear of Russian Hysteria going on in Maskva nowdays, do not know why, I tend to remember of an episode not so old:
If Russians would like to forget their betrayal, we can not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gnL3bTfcdb0

[gegev]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Russian arms in azerbaijan for 700mln - 1bln$

numbers and arms azeris got for 2011-13 contract.

18 additional Smerch MLRS
94 T90S Tanks (possible to get 3 more battalions, more 94 tanks)
About 100 BMP-3
18 VENA artilery systems
6 TOS1A
18 Msta-S
ToR2ME

Talking "ally" instead of acting one.
This is the real Russia.

What matters in fact, are actions, groundless declarations on supporting Armenia, done by some second grade Russian officials, is the only benefit we got.

But even in the "talking" part they don't give full preference to Armenia, they support Armenians and Azeries "equally".

When the war breaks out and the Russian weapon above will destroy Armenia, they will condemn azery actions strongly. Enjoy our talking ally.

What we need now most is an acting ally, regardless how powerful it is, because even Turkey may serve for us as a talking ally, if asked.

I'd prefer one small acting ally over hundreds of powerful talking ones.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Talking "ally" instead of acting one.
This is the real Russia.

What matters in fact, are actions, groundless declarations on supporting Armenia, done by some second grade Russian officials, is the only benefit we got.

But even in the "talking" part they don't give full preference to Armenia, they support Armenians and Azeries "equally".

When the war breaks out and the Russian weapon above will destroy Armenia, they will condemn azery actions strongly. Enjoy our talking ally.

What we need now most is an acting ally, regardless how powerful it is, because even Turkey may serve for us as a talking ally, if asked.

I'd prefer one small acting ally over hundreds of powerful talking ones.

Armenia has a complimentary foreign policy.
This is Russian complimentary policy in reverse.

In order to run such a high risk ( complimentary) policy we need very very skilled Politicians (Foreign Minister, President etc.).
If along the way we get a bum Politician all the work and good will developed goes out of the window.

Putting it another way, choosing to have six wives is easy.
Keeping them all happy very difficult if not impossible.

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Russia acts in its own interest and that is no reason to demonize it like many here do. Sure it arms the azeris along with a us and a hundred other nations. If Russia was not there the azeris could afford to buy weapons from the west but we could not. It does not take a genius to understand such basic things but the anti russian mob here is strong in its dilusional hatred of the only thing that keeps the Armenian nation in existence. Serj has been running the "complimentary foreign policy" much better then many believed was possible. It is rather hypocritical of you people to demand that Armenia act in its own interest while demanding Russia to act in Armenias interest as well. Russia is not our sugar daddy so do not expect it to act like one.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Serj has been running the "complimentary foreign policy" much better then many believed was possible.

Totally disagree.

There is something that is bothering Russia and finds us very obstinate.
It could be the EuroAsian treaty or something below the radar.

I say this because of the way it is ratcheting things up.

First Gas prices ( economy) and now arms ( security).
I do not see the end yet.

I am afraid under bullying pressure Armenia will give in sooner than Russia will give up, at a great economic, security and diplomatic cost.

I do not call this successful complimentary policy.

[Haykakan]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Armenia faces pressures from all directions--this is nothing new. What is new is the strategy of getting something from opposing sides as they try to woo you into their corner. This strategy of playing the west vs the east has paid off for Armenia in a number of ways. Just look at how much trade Armenia does now with the EU and you will see that it pays. The people you support like Raffi are simply trying to destroy Armenia by spreading the kinds of propaganda the likes of you and gagev are so eager to swallow up. Remember that the west is heavily under the zionist influence and the zionists consider us Armenians as pests to be gotten rid of. This is just one part of the reason among many others why embracing the west is like embracing death to Armenia. The thing is that there is so much evidence that the west means us harm that there shouldnt be this much speculation about who our friends are but yet here you are speculating away. You remember what our kind European Germans did to us during the genocide? How about what the wonderful Britts did to us before that? If you are not a student of history and you do not understand the previous two references well then how about what Hungry did to us just recently? You see a trend here? If you think that Russia is a unreliable partner then you should think that the west is a deadly enemy because that is how it has always acted towards us. Look at the facts and you will find that there are not so many options for little ole Armenia but hey i guess you and some others here can play a game of pretending and alternate reality.

[Eddo211]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

When it comes to arms sell anybody can sell arms to anybody, let your conscious be your guide ....and as far as the West and Russia, none are our friends and only our geographical position with geo-politics of the region sets our fate as a small nation if our leaders are able to balance between these empires.

The only think that bugs me about Russian sales to enemy is that they assure that Armenia can not go on the offensive effectively to regain the occupied Armenian lands by the Azeris unless ready to give too many casualties which they know damn well we cant effort.

They all evil

[gegev]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Armenia has a complimentary foreign policy.
This is Russian complimentary policy in reverse.

In order to run such a high risk ( complimentary) policy we need very very skilled Politicians (Foreign Minister, President etc.).
If along the way we get a bum Politician all the work and good will developed goes out of the window.

Putting it another way, choosing to have six wives is easy.
Keeping them all happy very difficult if not impossible.

Totally disagree!

I guess Putin has 6+one=7 wives.

[londontsi]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

I guess Putin has 6+one=7 wives.[/B]

Yes, that is the easy part.

Can he keep them all happy ????

[gegev]

Re: Is Russia an ally or foe, nowadays?

Yes, that is the easy part.

Can he keep them all happy ????

Currently the last one seems to be very happy. But I have no idea about the rest.