Religion and Atheism

[KarotheGreat]

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Are you kidding... Zionism's stronghold was in Britain and France.

Zionism is a relative new idea when you compare it to the name France you know what regnum Francia means? That is where the name France comes from.

[KanadaHye]

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Well Armstrong didn't say it's small step for men but a huge leap for the US but he said:

That's one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind

I suppose if you're ideologically trying to rule the Muslims in the middle east via Communism in Russia and Capitalism in America, it would make sense to defeat the crescent moon. Think about it.... J.F.K was a prophet of sorts to the American people. He said America would reach the moon within a time frame and it happened. What do politicians know about rocket science or space travel....

[KanadaHye]

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Zionism is a relative new idea when you compare it to the name France you know what regnum Francia means? That is where the name France comes from.

The name France comes from Latin Francia, which literally means "land of the Franks". Originally it applied to the whole Frankish Empire, extending from southern France to eastern Germany. The Franks were Germanic people. Also, Germany is a rather new "state" in terms of history.

Even during Napolean's rule, there are claims that there were plans to take Palestine and create a J3wish state.

Bonaparte and a J3wish state in Ottoman Empire

During the siege of Acre in 1799, Bonaparte prepared a proclamation declaring a J3wish state in the area of Palestine within Ottoman Syria, though he did not issue it. The siege was lost to the Ottoman Empire and the plan was never carried out. Some historians, including Nathan Schur in Napoleon and the Holy Land, believe that the proclamation was intended purely for propaganda purposes, and that Napoleon was not serious about the creation of a J3wish state. Some believe that the proclamation was made in order to win the heart of Haim Farhi, the J3Wish advisor to the ruler of Acre, Ahmed al Jazzar, and to bring him over to Napoleon's side, as Farhi was the actual commander of the defence of Acre on the field. Henry Laurens holds that the proclamation never took place and that the document which supposedly proves its existence is a forgery.

[Siggie]

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Typical American mentally "our basketball team won" "we did this" "we" it's like the American mentality is conditioned like the "Borg".

YOU don't include all of humanity where American speakers think they are the world... so if "we" went to the moon... didn't Arabs go to the moon as well? I guess all the countries that America has invaded weren't part of humanity. It's just rather funny... that's all.

For instance... the "World Series" - apparently North America IS the world

I don't understand... I don't think that America = the world... Nor did I say anything to give you that impression.

I consciously chose the word humanity instead of "the US." Honestly, I actually thought about that and deliberately chose the broader word because in my opinion it was more an accomplishment for the world than solely the U.S.
In science and more broadly even, we're always building on the work and knowledge of others. We publish and share findings globally in our fields. Therefore, it would be incorrect to say it was only the U.S.'s accomplishment because it belongs to the whole of humanity. Thus, the quote (which I think is PERFECT for Google Scholar) "stand on the shoulders of giants" because we're always building on what was done by those who came before us.

So I guess it's really you who thinks US = world because that's certainly not what I meant.
Thanks for projecting your negative pre-conceptions about Americans onto me again.

[KanadaHye]

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I don't understand... I don't think that America = the world... Nor did I say anything to give you that impression.

I consciously chose the word humanity instead of "the US." Honestly, I actually thought about that and deliberately chose the broader word because in my opinion it was more an accomplishment for the world than solely the U.S.
In science and more broadly even, we're always building on the work and knowledge of others. We publish and share findings globally in our fields. Therefore, it would be incorrect to say it was only the U.S.'s accomplishment because it belongs to the whole of humanity. Thus, the quote (which I think is PERFECT for Google Scholar) "stand on the shoulders of giants" because we're always building on what was done by those who came before us.

So I guess it's really you who thinks US = world because that's certainly not what I meant.
Thanks for projecting your negative pre-conceptions about Americans onto me again.

Again, the world doesn't revolve around YOU. My reply was to Sip

If you think that an accomplishment such as traveling to the moon (even though it never happened) was a great achievement.... what exactly did "humanity" gain from it? Did they not find oil on the moon so they went back to killing people for oil?

[HayotzAmrotz]

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It would be interesting to discuss here Christian Zionism, which apparently has some 50 million active followers in the US.

[Siggie]

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Again, the world doesn't revolve around YOU. My reply was to Sip

Uhh, your world does.

[KanadaHye]

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Uhh, your world does.

Time to dig up Levon's statement...

[KanadaHye]

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It would be interesting to discuss here Christian Zionism, which apparently has some 50 million active followers in the US.

Christian Zionism in the U.S. is simple

a) Find a excerpt from the Bible you can manipulate
b) Apply it to some part of the world that you want to invade
c) Use fear tactics and trick people into believing what's written is coming true

Example: Bible excerpt - a 200,000,000 man army from the East

Want to invade China? Claim they have a 200,000,000 army and in order to stop their plans of invasion and "save the world" a preemptive invasion or political action has to be made. The irony is, if the bible is to be used as prophecy then no matter what is done, you shouldn't be able to change the future. Unfortunately the bible describes the past and doesn't predict the (distant) future but humanity just keeps doing the same sh!t over and over.

[HayotzAmrotz]

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Christian Zionism in the U.S. is simple

a) Find a excerpt from the Bible you can manipulate
b) Apply it to some part of the world that you want to invade
c) Use fear tactics and trick people into believing what's written is coming true

Example: Bible excerpt - a 200,000,000 man army from the East

Want to invade China? Claim they have a 200,000,000 army and in order to stop their plans of invasion and "save the world" a preemptive invasion or political action has to be made. The irony is, if the bible is to be used as prophecy then no matter what is done, you shouldn't be able to change the future. Unfortunately the bible describes the past and doesn't predict the (distant) future but humanity just keeps doing the same sh!t over and over.

I don’t think it’s that simple.

Christian Zionism (CZ) claims to be from Restorationism , which has advocated for return of the j3ws to the Holy Land and their conversion to Christianity in order to initiate the Second Coming of Christ. Sometime in the not so distant past Restorationism was basically hijacked and so seriously corrupted that the most fundamental prerequisite – conversion of j3ws to Christianity – was completely dropped and forgotten! Instead it has evolved into this ridiculous hybrid known as Christian Zionism - an extremely influential worldwide movement championed especially by the US and UK’s elites and their multi-million strong ordinary followers. As I said before, CZ apparently has 50 million fully active and paying members in the US alone!

What else CZs are standing for? Well, for things that are even more ridiculous. For example, they advocate for the rebuilding of the Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem, which is impossible without the destruction of the third holiest site of Islam , the Al Aqsa mosque, because it sits right in the middle of where the Temple is suppose to be. The importance of the Temple’s reconstruction for them is enormous, because they believe that at its completion the j3wish messiah (not Jesus) will finally arrive!

It seems to me that the root of all evil is not only the money, it is also the religious fundamentalism.